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Offline yahoody

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Turn of the Century Colts?
« on: April 17, 2021, 02:29:40 PM »
I am a big fan of "turn of the previous Century", Colts.  My grand Father's Colt is from 1911.  I have a few I really enjoy.  Anyone else into shooting the older Colts?

1904 FSS


1901 38wcf
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Re: Turn of the Century Colts?
« Reply #1 on: April 17, 2021, 07:01:10 PM »
I've posted these before.  The 7 1/2" 45 Colt is a 1901 model and left the factory as a 4 3/4" 38-40.  It would be wild if this was part of a matched pair with yours!  (s/n is 2110xx).  I've put almost 2900 rounds through it, mostly at CAS matches.  Not really sure how well it groups.  :)  But a lot of clean matches (a lot easier today than it used to be).

The long-flute 32-20 from 1915 belongs to my brother, but he has never shot it.  I've put over 1000 rounds through it.

I shoot the two together about once a year now, and the .45 will get shot at least once more with a Cimarron antique model that looks the same.

Yahoody, the top one appears to be ivory.  What is the second one?  Looks good.  What does "FSS" mean?  I know it's not Factory Short Stroke.  :D



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Re: Turn of the Century Colts?
« Reply #2 on: April 17, 2021, 07:49:34 PM »
Nice!

Frontier Six Shooter,  aka 44 WCF from Colt.

Yes it is ivory.   Bone on the other.

 
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Re: Turn of the Century Colts?
« Reply #3 on: April 21, 2021, 04:40:24 PM »
My 1905 Bisley in .38WCF, still shoots nice!
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Re: Turn of the Century Colts?
« Reply #4 on: August 07, 2022, 05:23:13 PM »
@yahoody, what loads are you firing in your 1904 FSS ?

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Re: Turn of the Century Colts?
« Reply #5 on: August 07, 2022, 06:05:09 PM »
200 gr lead and 8.0gr of Unique
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Re: Turn of the Century Colts?
« Reply #6 on: August 08, 2022, 12:26:10 AM »
      Greetings!

   Using BP handloads, I once shot my Colt's 1902 Philippine DAA .45. It shot rather well!

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Re: Turn of the Century Colts?
« Reply #7 on: August 08, 2022, 02:13:49 PM »
I’ve used the top two when I was dressed in my Span Am outfit. Nice .38 civilian Colts from the 1890s. Atrocious trigger pulls though.
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Re: Turn of the Century Colts?
« Reply #8 on: August 08, 2022, 04:33:52 PM »
A friend of mine had at least a dozen (probably more like two dozen) early double action Colts, which he very graciously allowed me to shoot.  All had very nice single action pulls.  All had equally bad double action pulls.  You could tell Colt really wasn't planning on anyone SHOOTING those things double action!
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Re: Turn of the Century Colts?
« Reply #9 on: August 26, 2022, 07:46:03 PM »
Got to play with three '73Ps (all in 45 Colt) in a Ransom rest today: one BP frame, one late 1st gen, 1 2nd gen.  Accuracy was . . . well, mediocre, with BP factory-equivalent loads, but it was interesting.  Cylinder throat diameters were all over from .4508"-.457", but no thread choke (a definite plus).  If one would have had consistent cylinder throat diameters I'd probably have a "new" pistol.  But it was fun!
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Re: Turn of the Century Colts?
« Reply #10 on: August 28, 2022, 07:47:21 PM »
Yes, but it opens up Pandora's Box on using smokeless in those not VP proofed as I see here.

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Re: Turn of the Century Colts?
« Reply #11 on: August 28, 2022, 08:15:25 PM »
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Yes, but it opens up Pandora's Box on using smokeless in those not VP proofed as I see here.

Old adage was anything past serial number 192000 was safe with smokeless.  Other than the fact Colt didn't start proof stamping guns till around 1906.  :o   If you cna show me a VP gun prior to 1906 that is not a rebuild please do.  Shooting the thin walled 45s with smokeless at your own peril (and the gun's)  if it isn't VP proof marked.  But then Colt would also proof marked older guns at times, built prior to 1900, if they were being rebuilt at the factory.  Any number those around and almost always in 45.

I shoot a few early 1900 Colts with smokeless but none of them in 45 Colt.  44wcf, 38wcf and 32wcf all shoot a lighter bullet and have more steel in the cylinders.  It helps.   They are the better bet if you want to shoot smokeless in a gun built after 1900 and prior to a VP, proof stamp.     

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Re: Turn of the Century Colts?
« Reply #12 on: August 28, 2022, 09:17:14 PM »
I shoot an 1894 Frontier Six Shooter with a 3rd Generation cylinder installed regularly.  I don't hotrod it by any means, but it's a great shooter.
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Re: Turn of the Century Colts?
« Reply #13 on: August 28, 2022, 09:24:03 PM »
Good call Sir!

I have spec cut 2nd Gen cylinders for my oldest 45s.  Although a loose throat 3d Gen would be better if I thought about it.  And I use a new 3rd in 38wcf cylinder that I run as well in my older 38s.

For the little money involved there is no reason to risk the older guns.
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Re: Turn of the Century Colts?
« Reply #14 on: September 01, 2022, 11:34:55 PM »
A pair of 45s.  From 1892 and 1905.
I find that most of my old Colt's shoot better than expected over a sandbag rest.  These were black powder loads from 20 yards out of the 1892 gun.   Have yet to shoot the 1905 gun.




6 rounds into te right his target, with the orange dot the POA.  POI just a tiny bit higher. Perfect for 20 yards.  Nice but also not abnormal with the right ammo and bullet dia.  I was so excited after
 that 6 that the right target didn't fare as well.  Still, good enough.

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