Rowdy, Just a suggestion, I have been using 5.2 grains of Hodgen clays (Steel Horse Bailey's recipe) in my 45 colt loads for my brother, a friend, myself For several years now, for NCOWS shooting. We don't care for wimp loads. They ring the steels with authority. They are consistent, clean,& powerful. They hunt with them with confidence. The same load should be fine for 44wcf.. again Just a suggestion. Jed