'92 Pics,,,, show em'

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treebeard

Quote from: greyhawk on November 12, 2017, 12:52:07 AM
I went 38/40 - I had a real good one many years ago - almost mint bore and internals - sold it before I knew any better (we do dumb stuff sometimes!) same work for a 38/40 or 44/40 conversion tho - I have a decent lathe and a mill drill - some tooling - I created something a little different from what we normally see - and I like what I did - very satisfying - I knew 92's pretty good before I started  (ha ! I thought I did) learnt a lot doin this .
So how did you do your easier conversions ? what did you do and to what ? I am interested in that . Maybe I took the long road home here .
Took A 1892 full rifle with a corroded 38-40 bore  but otherwise operable and removed the barrel. I found an online auction site that had a model '94 44-40 Carbine barrel that must have come off a commemorative of some kind and installed that. After that it was a matter of shortening the mag tube and fitting a new carbine forearm. I call it my Frakenchester I. Next one was a full rifle that was rough and at first the action would not open. Spent a lot of elbow work and got it cleaned up and operating but 38-40 bore was hopeless. This was before I discovered the wonderful world of 38-40's so sent it off to Bobby Hoyt and rebored it to 44-40 and now it is very accurate in that caliber at about $100 cost. Eventually I had Hoyt reline the old barrel into 38-40 and gathered a bunch of parts and now have a fun 38-40 full length rifle. This one is my Frankenchester II. A collector might gag at these '92's but they all shoot very well and are lot's of fun.

Coffinmaker

Ha.

What a fun thread.  You guys are just TOO KOOL.  During my time hammering and filing on guns, I actually built and converted several 92s for discerning customers with very deep pockets.  Once one learns the the various trix for teardown and assembly, the '92 is actually a fairly simple and very reliable piece of machinery.  Some of them are rough as cobs, some are pretty darn smooth.  With just a little judicious rubbin-n-buffin, and a few after-market parts, the '92 can be exceptionally fast.  Once correctly "adjusted" they are super reliable.

I will be always sorry I sold my 92 some lustrum ago.  It was a very nice Navy Arms version.  Pre safety, needed a bunch of tuning to be a match rifle.  Wish I had kept it.  Been looking for another one ever since. (sigh)

greyhawk

Quote from: treebeard on November 12, 2017, 02:32:26 PM
Took A 1892 full rifle with a corroded 38-40 bore  but otherwise operable and removed the barrel. I found an online auction site that had a model '94 44-40 Carbine barrel that must have come off a commemorative of some kind and installed that. After that it was a matter of shortening the mag tube and fitting a new carbine forearm. I call it my Frakenchester I. Next one was a full rifle that was rough and at first the action would not open. Spent a lot of elbow work and got it cleaned up and operating but 38-40 bore was hopeless. This was before I discovered the wonderful world of 38-40's so sent it off to Bobby Hoyt and rebored it to 44-40 and now it is very accurate in that caliber at about $100 cost. Eventually I had Hoyt reline the old barrel into 38-40 and gathered a bunch of parts and now have a fun 38-40 full length rifle. This one is my Frankenchester II. A collector might gag at these '92's but they all shoot very well and are lot's of fun.
Hmm all good plans! I started out with a burned our 32/20 and a 25 barrel we "found" in a gunshop already threaded and chambered, dovetails cut too (worse luck!) I had to take a bit over half a thread off to get headspace but the dovetails all outta whack so took a full thread off it and then filed the barrel face back to fit, which shortened the chamber just a whisker too much - this almost 40 years ago - still remember sitting on the loungeroom floor with that stripped out 92 with a brass rod down the barrel and a wooden dowel rod and hammer - 200 unprimed cases - feed one in, tap him home with the wood dowel, tip the muzzle up and eject him with the brass rod - all they needed was a little crease in the shoulder, but it was just too much for the action - no I didnt have a full length size die! stuff like that had to come from America on a boat - took forever and cost an arm and a leg. Once I got the brass fire formed was all ok - we reloaded with an old lyman tong tool. (the combination one with the bullet mold as well)  Thats the gun I just did my conversion on so there is some history there!
The other I did was a 44/40 parts gun, we found a 92 action and the critical parts under a gunsmiths bench about the same time - dug around in the junk there and came up with an old 44 barel from a 1873 with a ring bulge near the muzzle - had been a heavy half octagon (have not seen another one like this its .920 at the chamber end) I cut the round back to half of the octagon length and made a shorty - it would shoot copper jackets and it was my hog gun for a long time - heavy loads and hollow point 44 mag bullets - I didnt figure this out - knew then what I know now that old barrel woulda done - I had that one rebarrelled several years back and only recently slugged the bore of the old barl - 433!! it wouldnt shoot lead for me in a fit but it did well with those 44mag boolits - similar deal with the 38/40 barrel really, we took it out of my sons '73 to rebarrel it and it looked to good to throw - so AFTER I ordered a new one for my latest conversion I went to work on the old one and I got it shooting quite good. Not sorry about the new one but learned some things along the way - those old 73 barrels in 38/40 slow twist - VERY sensitive to projectile length/velocity - somethinhg I knew but you gotta keep reminding yourself !
Anyway heres a pic of the pair - 44/40 shorty and 38/40 long rifle converted from 25/20 - I made the stocks and forend on both guns and magazine tubes etc - magazine retainer on both is via a tapered collar that is silver soldered to the tube and fits up tight inside the forend cap - thats how come no front band on the shorty.             

Bibbyman

Last week I traided into a Winchester 92 in 32WCF made in 1905.  Some screws are wrong and the magizene tube is a new replacement.   But it seems to function fine. The bore is as pristine as any I've seen.








Slamfire

 That's what a 92 should look like ,"NICE".


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Gabriel Law

I went to FAQ and got some help posting images here, but only can post a URL address...so how do I get an image to appear instead?

https://imgur.com/ZqATz1l


Bibbyman

Quote from: Gabriel Law on March 27, 2018, 12:49:22 PM
I went to FAQ and got some help posting images here, but only can post a URL address...so how do I get an image to appear instead?

https://imgur.com/ZqATz1l



I don't know how to post so it'll show but I would like to know more about Imgur.    Good? Bad?  Easy?  Lots of ads?   

King Medallion

Nice day out so rifles and camera went out.
King Medallion
I thought I was wrong once, but I was mistaken.

sixtus

My 92 is a 357 rossi used for hunting. Stainless and sacriligeous optical device on it, but the eyes aren't what they used to be.
Hopefully not too out of place on this forum.


RRio

Quote from: Coffinmaker on November 12, 2017, 03:05:32 PM


I will be always sorry I sold my 92 some lustrum ago.  It was a very nice Navy Arms version.  Pre safety, needed a bunch of tuning to be a match rifle.  Wish I had kept it.

I can relate . My NA '92 in .357 was one of my biggest regrets of swapping. It had the real walnut stocks and the action had been done by Lee's Gunsmithing. It was super slick. Buddy talked me into swapping it for his USFA.  Always regretted it.  I have a SS Rossi Trapper that I plan to ship off to  https://stevesgunz.com/.
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DeaconKC

Just picked this one up in .45. It has an older brother here in .357 but no pics of that one handy.
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dddrees

Just picked this one up. It took me awhile to find one in 357.






DeaconKC

Well, stained the stocks to make it look a bit better. Minwax Cherry and Mahogany stain.
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The Deacon AZSA
BOLD 1088
RATS 739
STORM 448
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russ1943

Here My 92  EMF 44-40 Rifle

treebeard


ndnchf

I just picked up this Chiappa M1892 rifle in .44WCF.  It is very smooth and accurate.


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Buckaroo Lou

Here are my two Winchester (Miroku) short rifles. One is in .45 Colt and the other is in .357 mag/38 spec. I use to have an original first year (four digit serial number) Winchester sporting rifle in .38-40 in very good condition, but sold it in a very weak moment. Have regretted it ever since.

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Abilene

Quote from: treebeard on October 21, 2019, 12:37:39 AM
My 1892 25-20 carbine/Users/stevenweems/Desktop/wwtRqKV-5.jpg

Although yours is a 25-20 (cool!) it made me start wondering.  Seems like most of the original '92's I've seen for sale were rifles.  I wonder if it is because Hollywood snatched up a large number of the carbines over the years.

Abilene

Okay, got one.  32-20 carbine from 1909.  I wrote about it here: https://www.cascity.com/forumhall/index.php?topic=64938.0

Shown with 32-20 Colt from 1915.


RRio

Quote from: Four Eyes Henry on April 20, 2017, 04:31:47 AM
This is mine in 45 Colt, bought new in 2009, shoot it almost exclusively with blackpowder and a 200 gr biglube..

Whats the longest range you have shot this? I just bought a 24" in .45 and I am curious about how far out it will reach.   ???
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