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Offline mtmarfield

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Re: Cimarron's new American model!
« Reply #280 on: May 25, 2022, 10:35:10 PM »
      Greetings, All!

   Over the span of two evenings, I took a double-handful of mixed head stamp  .45Colt's brass ( Just shy of 100 pcs. ), and cut them down to 1.095", the same length as my sample box of Starline .45 S&W Schofield brass. I then annealed the case mouths, and ran them through my old Hornady Titanium Nitride .45 Auto / .45 Long Colt 3 Die Set in my bid to create ".45 Colt's Government" cartridges for my OM #3.
   With a Reloading Manual starting charge of Alliant Unique ( 5.4gr. ) using my RCBS Little Dandy + #12 bushing, I capped half with CCI #300 Lg Pistol Primers, the other half with S&B Lg Pistol Primers recently acquired at Cabela's. These were corked with NEI #323A bullets ( .454-230HB ) that I had cast to a BHN-14. Crimp was light, just removing the flare, and gently pressing the case mouth into the bullet ogive, giving 1.404" OAL...
   Thus, I recreated the ".45 Colt's Govt." cartridge, in an effort to give myself not only a slightly more economical load, but also one that, by virtue of its shorter length, might eject and clear the cylinder a bit more freely from my Cimarron Old Model #3 Americans' cylinder. Which they almost always did.
   What they did do well was shoot rather accurately, neck-in-neck with my .45 Colt reloads in my previous post, about two and a half to three inches at 25yds, when my eyeballs were screwed in just right. Also, I was unable to discern any performance difference between the two brands of primers, neither was one fired primer materially different appearing from the other. Nonetheless, I would encourage you to seek out Published Reloading Data for S&B Primers.
   I'd say that they were a success! The biggest pain was cutting the .45 Colt's brass down, for the sometimes benefit of ejecting and clearing of fired cases from the cylinder. The simpler solution: buy a bag of Starline .45 S&W Schofield brass!

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Re: Cimarron's new American model!
« Reply #281 on: June 09, 2022, 12:42:20 PM »
I am beginning to lose faith in an 8" .44 Colt/Russian chambering. I can forgive them for releasing the .45 Colt version first in order to theoretically make more sales, but 44-40, really?  ::) 

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Re: Cimarron's new American model!
« Reply #282 on: June 10, 2022, 12:28:43 PM »
Fox Creek if you could find an American in.44-40 I would think that you could have a cylinder from a .44 Russian fitted.

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Re: Cimarron's new American model!
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Re: Cimarron's new American model!
« Reply #283 on: June 10, 2022, 02:24:58 PM »
I'm with ya, Fox Creek!  Been on the waiting list for over two years to get an 8" .44Russian/Colt/Special!
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Re: Cimarron's new American model!
« Reply #284 on: July 12, 2022, 08:57:00 PM »
I decided not to hold out on a .44 American and got the 8" .45Colt. I may be tempted to get a 5" .44. Were I to add another, I'd probably rather have a 5" Schofield, as it's my favorite variant.



Followed closely by the New Model .44Spl.

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Re: Cimarron's new American model!
« Reply #285 on: July 24, 2022, 12:42:02 AM »
      Greetings, All!

   I've noticed that the bottom of the grip frame on my OM #3 has a screw in it, as if it was a filler screw for a lanyard ring... If that's the case, has someone tried to mount one?

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Re: Cimarron's new American model!
« Reply #286 on: August 04, 2022, 04:40:41 PM »
Well, talked with Cimarron today and have frankly decided to probably settle for a 5" in .44 special. They told me I could use 44 Russian; 44Colt AND 44 Special.  So I am now on that particular waiting list.  Ten months if lucky
Gee, maybe I should buy lottery tickets instead. LOL  :)
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Re: Cimarron's new American model!
« Reply #287 on: August 04, 2022, 11:21:45 PM »
So they are coming, guess I need to be prepared.  ;D
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Re: Cimarron's new American model!
« Reply #288 on: August 05, 2022, 04:05:35 PM »
Looking for an 8" barrel in any caliber.  Have been on the list for an 8" .44 since December, 2019.
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Re: Cimarron's new American model!
« Reply #289 on: August 05, 2022, 04:24:36 PM »
Looking for an 8" barrel in any caliber.  Have been on the list for an 8" .44 since December, 2019.
Jake
Jake, I think they must have lost that list!  Maybe you should call again.  :)

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Re: Cimarron's new American model!
« Reply #290 on: August 06, 2022, 11:53:44 AM »
Looking for an 8" barrel in any caliber.  Have been on the list for an 8" .44 since December, 2019.
Jake
Only see one 8" on Gunbroker. Now it's all 5" .44's.

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Re: Cimarron's new American model!
« Reply #291 on: August 23, 2022, 02:22:46 PM »
I saw -- and got to handle -- a new Cimarron 5-inch American in .45 Colt at a shop earlier today.  It felt great!  And I had just told the clerk "how much better it handled" than the 7-inch Schofield version that I have in .38 Spcl -- when here comes the shop's big and burly gunsmith; and he quickly draws, snaps open, and empties rounds from a 3" Schofield (also in .45). Then he says "Here, try this one!" and lays it in my eager hands.

The dude -- easily 1.5 times as big as me -- carries a Schofield for personal defense!

It was a beauty for sure!  And I'll admit, I did like the way that it handled.

When the clerk asked "Is that all you carry?" his reply was classic -- "Yup, this is just so I have time to get to my rifle!"  Which, of course, is a slicked up Marlin leveraction in .45 Colt.

The guy (and me too) was born in the wrong century I think.  ;)

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Re: Cimarron's new American model!
« Reply #292 on: September 12, 2022, 10:23:00 AM »
The HKS speedloaders for the Model 29 or Model 25 will work with the Schofields! I tried it and they worked just fine. Who knows, I might try to carry one of mine sometime!
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Re: Cimarron's new American model!
« Reply #293 on: September 12, 2022, 07:20:02 PM »

 :)  Ah Ha  ;)

Must admit, was a time not too long ago, I lusted after a pair of 3.5 inch Schofields.  Wanted 45s soz I could send 'em off for the Moon Clip modification. 

Youz guyz are giving me that particular LUST all over again.  I am NOT going back to (four letter wurd) just to afford 'em.  No sireee bob I ain't.

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Re: Cimarron's new American model!
« Reply #294 on: September 13, 2022, 11:01:11 AM »
Mentioning 3 1/2" Schofield, I had to send mine in for a factory replacement on the cylinder. One of the chambers was so oversized it would split the fired case from the mouth almost to the web! But they stepped right up and are fixing it for me, just waiting for it to find it's way home from Texas. Makes a nice pair with my 5".
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Re: Cimarron's new American model!
« Reply #295 on: September 14, 2022, 09:59:42 AM »

 :)  Zounds  ;)

Have a good friend her in the East.  Won just about everything there was to win in Classique Cowpatty with a pair of Schofield 3.5 inch 45s.  Finally had to give 'em up when they started exhibiting function problems.  Mid Match of course. 

I'm still starting to suffer that itch.

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Re: Cimarron's new American model!
« Reply #296 on: September 18, 2022, 03:39:52 PM »
I'm holding out for  one in .44 American......
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Re: Cimarron's new American model!
« Reply #297 on: November 27, 2022, 12:38:58 PM »
Is there any HARD news regarding the American Model in .44 Colt/Russian yet or just more of...


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Re: Cimarron's new American model!
« Reply #298 on: February 01, 2023, 03:17:33 PM »
Fox Creek, the last I heard, they had loaded the .44 Colt/Russian Americans with 8" barrels on the back of their rainbow-colored unicorns and the pack train was on its way!.....at least that's what I heard!
....been waiting on one of these for years now!!!
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Re: Cimarron's new American model!
« Reply #299 on: July 24, 2023, 03:58:19 PM »
Does anyone have any new/updated info on the American in 44Spec hitting the USA anytime?

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