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Offline sixtus

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56-50 bullet moulds and meplats
« on: May 24, 2019, 08:46:46 am »
Hi fellas I was trying to find images of different bullets used in the gun, but not a great deal turn up on internet searches. Wondered if anyone has photos or links they could share of loaded ammo, bullets, or mould numbers I could search online? Part of the reason for this is selecting a bullet option and also curious as to the widest meplat that will feed okay through the spencers.

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Re: 56-50 bullet moulds and meplats
« Reply #1 on: May 24, 2019, 10:52:20 am »
Sixtus, I have the Lodgewood/Lee .515 X 2 mold; bullets drop at about 350 grains. Meplat is .315.
That said, I recently discovered to my total chagrin that I can't get rounds to feed through my particular Spencer. The timing seems to be off regarding the retraction of the extractor blade.
This is the third Armi-Sport Spencer carbine I have had, and the only one to give trouble. I simply have to get this sorted out.

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Re: 56-50 bullet moulds and meplats
« Reply #2 on: May 24, 2019, 11:43:46 am »
There are two CW carbines out there that have been around for a very long time that use basically the same bullet as the 56-50 Spencer. These are the Smith and the Maynard carbines.
I would suggest a net search for bullets and molds for these two carbines as well as the Spencer. Because the Spencer's are now center fire and of course repeaters (flat nose bullets) OAL of the finished cartridge is required to allow for proper feeding through the action.
 Much has been done within the N-SSA to develop bullets over the years for these two carbines. They run in at .515 (+ or -) and around 350 gr.
Larry Ramano also offers a mold that is a little longer in the nose (but still flat nose) that may help in getting the OAL finished cartridge length to feed properly in the repeater.
 Just a thought on my part.
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Re: 56-50 bullet moulds and meplats
« Reply #3 on: May 29, 2019, 09:30:35 am »
Tx, Blair and hello, Sixtus:

Romano is no longer making or supplying his moulds for either Spencers or Maynards. 

One of my experienced Spencer shooting friends has shared that the Lyman 515149 bullet with its .200" meplat  has cycling issues in his original Spencer. It may also have inadequate lube groove capacity.
Yet the .270" meplat Rapine 350T works fine in an Armisport, as reported here in another thread by Fox Creek Kid and also in all of my Romano Spencers and at least twi original Spencers.

That .270" meplat is as wide as I have seen and cannot say if wider would cause cycling issues. 
Perhaps you can borrow some of the 350T's and try as is, then see if some that are hand filed wider, but loaded to the same OAL will cycle.

Close copies  of the Romano 315 gr bullet and a heavier, longer one for the 56-50 and 56-56 Spencer with ADEQUATE LUBE CAPACITY are available from Accurate Bullet Molds in Salt Lake City.  Accurate bores them via CNC and can make minor dimensional changes to meplat, lube groove, etc. Remember, the 315gr Romano was specifically designed to be shorter to allow more powder, yet stabilize in 32" to 36" twists.
Accurate ONLY deals via email due to hearing issues.  My emailed spec's have always been met. 
Get the IRON one for durability. 

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Re: 56-50 bullet moulds and meplats
« Reply #4 on: June 07, 2019, 12:58:05 pm »
http://www.accuratemolds.com/catalog.php?page=21

Clicking on the image desired will give a close up with standard listed dimensions.  These can be adjusted to whatever you want when you order.
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Re: 56-50 bullet moulds and meplats
« Reply #5 on: June 07, 2019, 01:33:33 pm »
I have an Armi Sport (Chiappa) Spencer carbine in 56-50.  I use a bullet from Accurate Molds, which can be viewed here: http://www.accuratemolds.com/bullet_detail.php?bullet=51-350S-D.png

That bullet feeds fairly well in my reproduction carbine, although I do get some hitches which I think may be somewhat inherent in the design or my technique.
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