Elk Konnected Hand out at County Commissioners meeting on 4/25

[Lookatmeknow!!]

Oh, Diane, wasn't talking about you. These things that Elk Konnected and county commissioners have are ideas, and to me no need to get worried about ideas.

[Wilma]

I have hear that Steve doesn't live in Elk County, either.  What about the rest of you?

[sixdogsmom]

I live and pay taxes in Moline, a city in Elk County. We were just the victim of the EK politics, and lost our school last year. 

[Patriot]

I have hear that Steve doesn't live in Elk County, either.  What about the rest of you?

Oh for cripes sake, Wilma... there are a number of people who post here who reside outside Elk Co.  Like it or not. Get over it already.  Sheesh.

[ROSS]

While you are getting so concerned about this, maybe you should sit back and listen to the big picture. Those are all IDEAS!! That is the key word there. IDEAS!! Man, why worry about all of this until the whole windfarm thing is a done deal. You all are making this out to be some sort of terrible thing to have ideas, to have meetings, to basically be a person that has anything good to say about Elk Konnected. I am thinking that I am not sure that you guys even live in Elk county??? Do you???

Truthfully my dear I don't give a damn about the money that may or may not come about. It's the deception, manipulation and control that Elk Konnected uses. And Idea's are great but when they go to the extent of:

Unified Gov't (w/in the county) to save money and become more unified (do away with city gov't, councils­
(cont.) all centrally located-one managing body) (Big Ideas's)

For more control That bothers me.

And when they blantantly lie about not using taxpayers money. That bothers me.
When the county commissioner starts the organization and turns it into a political action committee and is trying to manipulate the county commissioners by having people representing Elk Konnected come before the board. That bothers me.

Sure they do a couple of good things. It's comparable to giving a child a lollipop while playing a dirty trick on them. I believe in honesty.

That's just my opinion and I'm entitled to it especially since I pay taxes here in Elk County.

[Lookatmeknow!!]

Truthfully my dear I don't give a damn about the money that may or may not come about. It's the deception, manipulation and control that Elk Konnected uses. And Idea's are great but when they go to the extent of:

Unified Gov't (w/in the county) to save money and become more unified (do away with city gov't, councils­
(cont.) all centrally located-one managing body) (Big Ideas's)

For more control That bothers me.

And when they blantantly lie about not using taxpayers money. That bothers me.
When the county commissionr starts the organization and turns it into a political action committee and is trying to manipulate the county commissioners by having people representing Elk Konnected come before the board. That bothers me.

Sure they do a couple of good things. It's comparable to giving a child a lollipop while playing a dirty trick on them. I believe in honesty.

That's just my opinion and I'm entitled to it especially since I pay taxes here in Elk County.

I don't like the fact that they just want one government either. I don't see that working. It just doesn't make any sense. But what I do see, not just in Elk County, people are changing. I don't like the economy, and we all know it's terrible. But with that change people change, too. They go into panic mode I think. I just can't get there. I feel going into a panic about money is just not worth it. Yes, we all need money to live, but at what expense is it worth the worry. I used to worry about money and the economy, but you know it got me no where but sick.

Also, I understand it doesn't matter where people are from or if they pay taxes here or not. Everyone is entitled to there opinion, I get that. What I don't get is when someone else has a different opinion than the others, its like they are outcasted. Like Charlie, some of you don't like his views on things. And that is your opinion. He is entitled to his opinion just like you are. Why break the post down and all but call him white trash cause his opinion don't match yours. I like debate, but feel that one can't debate anything on here if they don't agree with the post. THAT IS JUST WRONG!!!

[Wilma]

Well said, Angie.  Why are some people so set on arguing that what they post is absolutely right and what someone else posts that differs a bit, is wrong?  Why do some people want us all to get into a panic and overthrow the current government?  What is their ulterior motive?  So some posters disagree with and dislike one of our commissioners?  The time to campaign is when the position comes up to be refilled.   What do you want us to do about it now?  Is this another nit-picking session?

[ROSS]

I don't like the fact that they just want one government either. I don't see that working. It just doesn't make any sense. But what I do see, not just in Elk County, people are changing. I don't like the economy, and we all know it's terrible. But with that change people change, too. They go into panic mode I think. I just can't get there. I feel going into a panic about money is just not worth it. Yes, we all need money to live, but at what expense is it worth the worry. I used to worry about money and the economy, but you know it got me no where but sick.

Also, I understand it doesn't matter where people are from or if they pay taxes here or not. Everyone is entitled to there opinion, I get that. What I don't get is when someone else has a different opinion than the others, its like they are outcasted. Like Charlie, some of you don't like his views on things. And that is your opinion. He is entitled to his opinion just like you are. Why break the post down and all but call him white trash cause his opinion don't match yours. I like debate, but feel that one can't debate anything on here if they don't agree with the post. THAT IS JUST WRONG!!!

i agree everyone is entitled to their opinion. And my reason for posting this list was because I knew the newspaper wouldn't. The newspaper is Elk Konnected affiliated and therefore biased. And I also posted it to get a real conversation going. And i can agree to disagree and hopefully not offend anyone.

In my opinion the fact that Elk Konnected suggest on government for all the communities shows that they want to control Elk County.
Why, even when I spoke with the County Commissioners Board on Monday I could barely draw a difference between Elk Konnected and the Board. I do believe only one Commissioner is not involved with Elk Konnected. and that is Mr. Ritz.

While expressing my opinion to the board about Elk Konnected it was like a switch from County Commissioners to Elk Konnected.
Elk Konnected presents it self as if they represent all the people of Elk County and I believe it is more like 5 or 6% as someone else has pointed out. If the commissioners were really interested in the county peoples opinions as a whole they would take the proper leadership role and hole a special meeting open to the public without the 3 ring circus that Elk Konnected holds.

It's not just about a commissioner, it's about Elk Konnected. And the time to wake up is now.  Not on election day. Look at the people running for the next president, they have already started positioning themselves. We need a couple of people to run for these offices that won't abuse the positions. We need to be looking now. I'd almost bet Elk Konnected has already got someone in mind.

Again it just my opinion.

[Wilma]

Ross, I don't know who you are or what your connection to Elk County is, but.  The idea of one government has been around for awhile.  I have heard it mentioned before.  It is not a new idea thought up by Elk Konnected.  Sedgwick County even talks about it once in awhile.  Also, when you say Elk Konnected, who specifically are you talking about?  Are they citizens of Elk County?  Couldn't it be that some Elk County citizens are finally beginning to take hold of an idea about improving Elk County?  I haven't seen it happening before in the 60 some years that I have been in this area.

[ROSS]

Ross, I don't know who you are or what your connection to Elk County is, but.  The idea of one government has been around for awhile.  I have heard it mentioned before.  It is not a new idea thought up by Elk Konnected.  Sedgwick County even talks about it once in awhile.  Also, when you say Elk Konnected, who specifically are you talking about?  Are they citizens of Elk County?  Couldn't it be that some Elk County citizens are finally beginning to take hold of an idea about improving Elk County?  I haven't seen it happening before in the 60 some years that I have been in this area.

I've got a small retirement farm in Elk County as I've said I pay my taxes. I believe about the idea being around for a long time. But today they have an organization that is trying to push it. And as I've said there is a blurr between our Elk County elected officials and Elk konnected. Elk Konnected won't say exactly who they are therefore I percieve DECEPTION. I do know Liz Hendricks our County Commissioner prides herself as a founding member. Elk Konnected is suppose to be county citizens but their public conversations are controlled and ran by Public Square Communities LLC out of Leota, Ks --- and in my opinion a three ring circus and they hold the whip.
we don't want you sitting with your spouse (nobody comes between me and my wife--nobody), we don't want you sitting with your friend. Also the fact that our newspaper considers itself an affiliate so you will never get the full story from them.

Elk Konnected's idea of improving anything is to hound the community city councils for money. I have been told the communities have been telling them no. And I don't see why Elk Konnected has any right to knock a communities city councils decision to opt out of anything that Howard wants. Why does Elk Konnected want to do away with the Longton Free Fair? My guess is so Longton will donate to and participate more in Howards Fair. I love the little parades and events all these little communities have and the sweet thing is even if you don't live in these little communities you are treated like a long lost friend.

If it's such a good idea to get rid of these little communities city councils to save money. Do you suppose that senator or whoever, do you suppose he is right about consolidating the counties? We could be part of Montgomery County, Chataqua County and a couple others and have one centralized government in Independence, Ks.

I have tilled gardens for people (no charge), I have given farm fresh eggs to people (no charge), I have done other things (no charge).
Do i run to the newspaper looking for a pat on the back. Heck no, that's not why I give a helping hand. And I'm not looking for a pat on the back now. I just try to be helpful when I can and I don't collect taxpayers dollars for doing it. So maybe I'm a fool. But I enjoy life.

I have to get back to work here on my little retirement farm. I'll check back later.