Ross i think your thinking way too short term on the "Neighborhood Revitalization Program" this is a good deal for anyone that participates and the county. The county is not out anything.
I think you are thinking to long term, unless you have a crystal ball. This program is not limited to houses. I believe, it could be used to build a pig farm building for raising pigs and for building barns or even a fancy hen house. None of which, would bring anyone to Elk County. But, would allow them not to pay their fair share of property taxes via kickbacks or the twisted way of calling it a tax rebate and therefore accepting Elk County Welfare.
They are just not collecting a full share for the first 5 years of a NEW taxable property. If the a house is not built or remodeled they get nothing.
Why would anyone sign up for the program and start building and not finish. How foolish do you think these people are, how foolish do you think the people are that read this forum?
If someone builds a new house then whatever tax the county collects is more than they were getting before the house was built. A brand new home is going to be there a lot longer than the 5 yrs of the plan. I live in a house that was built in 1900.
Now a few pages back on fo the Followers tried to convience us that it would not be that much money, so why do it? What are the costs of implementing the program? What has the program already cost the county in man hours? Is it free? I don’t think so!
We will most likely be talking about much more expensive homes, with much larger taxes, meaning much larger rebates. And they will probably be demanding much more in the form of road services and who know ws what else? So, let them pay their fair share, okay? How long the house stands has no bearing on the Welfare aspects of the present day program.
And without special consideration at the cost of the rest of the County Taxpayers, they should pay, their fair share. Yes, I was told at the court house there is a man wanting to build a new house either here in Elk County or another county. Supposedly, he said he would build here if he can get the tax break. What kind of a person thinks, they should get special treatment as I call it, in the form of County Welfare, in the form of what some people call kick backs, rebates? And do we need that kind of a threatening person in Elk County? Give me a tax break or I won’t live and build in your county? Does Elk County really deserve that kind of person?
Is it only about trying to get one or two families to move to Elk County?
I thought it was suppose to be about population growth?
If someone really wants to accomplish something why not simply look at Montgomery County and Cowley County? What do they have? Industrial parks that provide places for business’ which provide jobs, which require people to work there. Those counties did not start out with big college campus’s or big hospitals those things came later. Oh, and a fancy high school campus does not qualify as a College campus. You can build the Taj Mahal of high school campus’s and it won’t make a bit of difference. Perhaps a blue ribbon campus might draw one or two families, who knows? Building a barn or a house is not Going to do much population growth now is it?
If a house in Ek county is valued @ $50K and a $20K remodel is done on the property, the property is now valued higher forever. Not just the 5years of the plan. Every year after the 5 yr rebate is a 100% addition to the county tax rolls.
Let’s, let them pay their fair share from the git-go just like I did and just like every other property tax payer does. Let’s play fair. If the county can afford property tax breaks for a few, why not for all?
If this program entices one family to build a new house then it benefits the county. If someone decides to remodel a deteriorating home, one that is decreasing in value every year and saves one home from becoming a vacant, unsightly, unsellable property then it benefits the county.
Is that what this program is based on “IF” ? I don’t think so. I think it is based on what a few locals want for themselves! Perhaps being an Elk Konnected, LLC Follower you can tell us if the Elk Konnected Kommissioners came up with this grand idea through their Konnected Kounty Economic Employee?
If this adds homes to the county,saves homes in the county, cost the county nothing. It's a no brainer.
If it only add hay barns and pig barns and henhouses and outhouses it really is a no brainer?
Also i know the county as proposed the cities to participate in the program too.
Since when is it County Government Business to run city business?
Howard and Longton are on board.
Have all the citizens of those communities signed on?
Did the communities have a hearing on the proposal?
Where is the documentation?
Well now let’s just take a deeper look at what you have brought up, Okay?
Please feel free to provide some answers, thank you!
Isn’t Elk Konnected, LLC more or less home based in Howard?
Doesn’t our Konnected Kounty Economic Development any Youth Development Employee live in Howard isn’t she a member of the Elk Konnected, LLC Steering Committee?
How many undisclosed Elk Konnected, LLC members live in Howard?
Doesn’t Longton have a community member on the Elk Konnected, LLC Steering Committee?
How many undisclosed Elk Konnected, LLC members live in Longton?
Not too difficult to figure out why they are on board, is it?
What Konnected Kounty Kommissioner asked those towns?
Moline and Grenola are not. Why would a town not be in favor of this.
Well I can only guess, well I can not speak for either town. Let me refer you back to page one of this thread to the suggestion by Elk Konnected, for a unified government centrally located in Elk County. What is considered centrally located in Elk County if it is not the Court House Howard?
Also, I must ask you how many un named Elk Konnected, LLC members live in these two communit
If by a small chance someone is looking to move to our county. And wants to build or remodel a house to live in. [/quote]
There is that “IF” again? What “IF” nobody choose to move here? What “IF” only barns are built?
Why would anyone chose to live here except in retirement? Do you see any really good paying jobs open around here for the masses?
Where do you thing they will buy? Not Moline or Grenola.
That is such a mind fumblingly stupid thing to say in my books. Moline and Grenola are both great little communities and I think you should apologize to them for such an attitude towards them.
Why such a negative towards a couple of Elk County Communities full of good people?
I thought the Elk Konnected, LLC Followers were only allowed think and talk positive?
I am Completely flabbergasted by such an attitude towards our communities.
But now you come back and say it is all hearsay? Is that how our County Government works on hearsay?
But, Kounty Kommissioner Hendricks did visit the Howard City Council, it said so in the newspaper last week.
Was it an official visit, if so where is the report or the documentation?
I'm still posting what I had already typed, because even if iwhat you say is is hearsay, I believe my comments. opinions and questions are still relavent.
Isn’t it time for a real change of attitude in our County Government?
If you are happy with the present trending of our Elk County Government in what I consider, pulling the wool over our eyes with double talk and the lack of transparency in our government leave well enough alone.
I wonder, will Konnected Kounty Kommissioners
be successful at being re-elected to County Commissioner?
Is the existing trajectory of Elk County spending, taxation and administrative practices sustainable?
Perhaps the basic problem is not cyclical, perhaps it is structural?
Perhaps the time to act is now.
Don't you think?
If everything is cool with you change nothing. It is actually that easy!
Remember, my opinions are my own, please stick to your own opinions, and your own principles.