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Miscellaneous / Re: Observations
« Last post by larryJ on Yesterday at 01:23:58 pm »
Deb, this is something I think I might have heard back in the day.  I think I asked my mother at one time what the deal was with Granny and Uncle Jimmy.  I seem to remember that Granny did not like the girl that Uncle Jimmy wanted to marry and was against him marrying.  He married her anyway.  They remained married the rest of their lives.  Because that daughter of theirs was asking so many questions about what Granny was like it was apparent that their children were not told much about the grandmother.  I have often preached to my kids that family is forever.  Friends come and go but family is forever.  And then I say look at your mother's family.  She has a brother who lives here in Los Angeles.  They got into an argument and have not spoken in many years.  She has a sister who is bipolar and a pain in the you know what.  I know it is not her fault but it is difficult for my wife to deal with it sometimes.  And my children nod their heads and say yeah you are right.  As I said there are times that I am at a loss that they don't try to spend more time with me but then I think......And say to dummy they are doing what you said.......spending time with their families!  And that makes me proud that they listen to me.  We are close like we need to be even if it is a occasional phone call or a text.  My daughter is on vacation this week and took the time yesterday to take me for a Doctors appointment.  I offered an apology for taking her time and she told me that she was happy to do it.  And you know we had a nice time just talking.  That's family.

Politics / What To Abolish: Musings Of A Conservative
« Last post by Wake-up! on Yesterday at 09:26:04 am »
Article by Michael Rozeff at Lew

[It could be subtitled, Forty Ways to Save Money. Did the writer miss any?]

Cleaning out old files, I came across a file dated 2008 from a conservative who wanted to reduce government. The list of government to get rid of is quite extensive, nothing like what so-called conservatives of today advocate. The author might be termed a true conservative or even a true American. Anyway, the list is bracing, even for libertarians used to this sort of radical thinking.

1. Bring all US military people home from every foreign post;
2. Eliminate all tariffs on imports;
3. Eliminate particular regulation designed to protect certain American businesses;
4. Privatize the Air Traffic Control system with either the possibility of employees form-ing their own corporation or airlines forming a consortium to run it;
5. Cease the Federal Highway System program and allow private firms or states to handle this matter;
6. Privatize the Weather Bureau;
7. Eliminate the Bureau of Indian Affairs;
8. Stop all foreign aid;
9. Stop all selling promotion subsidies to American businesses seeking overseas business;
10. Legalize “recreational” drugs, perhaps making them available through a doctor’s prescription wherein the physician could, at minimum, give the recipient a lecture on their adverse effects;
11. Privatize all federal prisons;
12. Establish short-term “Sunset” provisions for all federal laws;
13. Stop all Corps of Army Engineers projects, letting the individual states do their own work or form joint cooperation groups with other states having a common problem;
14. Close the FFA—let airlines police and regulate themselves;
15. Drop federal assignment of airwave frequencies;
16. Drop any laws regarding media ownership;
17. Eliminate OSHA;
18. Phase out Social Security;
19. Close down Medicare and Medicaid ASAP;
20. Eliminate the Federal Reserve Bank and privatize the currency;
21. Privatize the Postal System by offering it for sale to its employees or others based on its assets or shut it down completely;
22. Stop AMTRAC subsidies as well as those to waterway and highway transportation operatives;
23. Stop ethanol tax rebates or any other subsidies related to it;
24. Sell off NASA;
25. Eliminate federal nuclear power generation control;
26. Eliminate all federal taxes and establish a tax on all retail items except food and medicine—at the same time sharply curtailing the size of the IRS;
27. Eliminate the minimum wage standard;
28. Repeal all laws regarding the regulation of labor unions;
29. Repeal all campaign contribution and limit regulations;
30. Have Congress impose term limits on itself—one term for senator and six years for a representative;
31. Remove any mandatory retirement age provisions from private and public sector;
32. Eliminate the following cabinet level entities: Departments of Commerce, Labor, Transportation, Health and Human Resources (including the National Institutes of Health which could be privatized), Housing and Urban Development, Veterans Affairs (this can be integrated into the sharply reduced Defense Dept.)—also to go would be EPA, FDA, and the Office of National Drug Control while the Center for Disease Control would be retained.
33. Raise the age and length of service that which any federal employee may retire and move their retirement funds with their choice into privately run accounts;
34. Eliminate the ICC;
35. Out contract all Veterans Administration work;
36. Cut out all Congressional perks;
37. Privatize all nuclear waste disposal and storage;
38. Eliminate the Department of Education and with it any federal outlays to states–edu-cation is a local and state matter at best;
39. Eliminate the Department of Agriculture and all subsidies to farmers, ranchers, and others—do maintain however plant and animal disease inspection and quarantine of for-eign introductions;
40. Stop all Government Printing Office publications other than those related to new laws and regulations and changes—the use of the Congressional Record would be restricted to actual Congressional records with no padding or changes allowed.
Miscellaneous / Re: Observations
« Last post by Dignified Redneck on December 12, 2018, 11:50:33 pm »
Chocolate cake is not a bad thing to be remembered for.....  I always wondered what the fall out was about between Grandma Andrews and the youngest son. No one back here ever talked about it either.

Maybe for Christmas you should ask for gift certificates from your children for their time. They are probably so busy with their own families, they don't think about you wanting to just visit with them. Now that both of my parents are gone, time spent with my son, daughter in law and the girls are precious. And I didn't realize that until after they were gone. Just my humble opinion. After my husband broke his left leg the Monday before Thanksgiving chasing a couple of heifer calves in the dark that had escaped the pasture, our son and his girls came out the following weekend and spent the afternoon fixing the fence that the heifers were going through. That afternoon was the best experience I have had with them for a long, long time. Answering the girls questions about the bull, cows, calves, showing them how to untangle baling wire and Carl allowing the middle grand daughter to chauffer him around on the utility vehicle is going to stay with me for awhile.

Stay strong and smile! Didn't Betty Davis stay that old age wasn't for sissies!!!! Love, Deb
The Coffee Shop / Lois Morgan
« Last post by peter.hanson on December 10, 2018, 09:32:00 pm »
if anyone has information on how to get a hold of Lois Morgan, formerly of Elk County (and previously very active in posting on genealogy information within the county), please send to me at
thank you.
Miscellaneous / Re: Observations
« Last post by larryJ on December 10, 2018, 01:29:16 pm »
And more.....

I just flashed back to an earlier memory of my grandmother Edith Andrews.  I don't know or never heard any specific reason for this.  At some point my grandmother had a falling out with her youngest son and they were estranged for the rest of her life.  He lived in Wichita and had four children, my first cousins.  These children grew up not  knowing their grandmother.

A few years ago there was a cousins reunion that I organized in Colorado Springs.  One of those children came to this reunion.  I had not seem her since she was a young girl.  After the formal get-together we all met back in her room at the motel and the first thing she asked was what was our grandmother like.  Many of us spontaneously said..........

Chocolate cake!!!!!!!

Anytime she heard one or more of her grandchildren were coming for a visit she would bake a cake.

It's funny that she would be remembered for her chocolate cakes.

Miscellaneous / Re: Observations
« Last post by larryJ on December 10, 2018, 01:15:09 pm »
More reflections on being a grandparent..........

Over the weekend my wife, daughter and oldest granddaughter went shopping for my granddaughter's birthday which is today.  She turned 14.  They did some Christmas shopping also.  On Friday my son and daughter-in-law dropped off their children so that they could attend a Christmas party out of town.  My daughter picked them up after work and my son came back on Saturday to get them.  My son and his wife had come to our house on Friday in two cars and they left one here while they went to their party. 

I remained in my chair binging on TV and the computer.

So I had a brief meeting with my son when they left the kids who went into another room to play.  Then my daughter picked them up giving me a brief goodbye.  Saturday morning my wife went outside to wait for my daughter for their shopping trip.  My daughter did not come in.  After the shopping was done my wife was dropped off.  My daughter did not come in.  Meanwhile, my son and daughter-in-law texted to say they were going to swing by to get the car they left but were in a big hurry because they had to be someplace shortly so they weren't going to come in.  Remember my wife is out shopping at this point.  On Sunday more shopping a repeat of Saturday with my wife going outside to wait and a repeat of being dropped off except my daughter did help her carry some things in but then left.  My granddaughter was with them both days but never came in the house.  This is all very sad.

I remained in my chair binging on TV and the computer.

Wait!  I got it.  It has to be me.  They don't want to come in to see me!  They have no problem with leaving their children with me to care for and no problem leaving their car in my driveway.  There is plenty of room.  My daughter doesn't have to come in because she just saw me the day before.

Wait!  I am just being paranoid.

No, it's gotta be me.

Oh well I am just going to remain in my chair and binge watch TV and play on my computer.  When and if they do come through my front door I will be happy to see them.

Politics / Comey Struggles . . . . . (What's New?) . . . .
« Last post by Wake-up! on December 09, 2018, 11:32:41 am »
. . . . . nothing in DC, apparently. It appears to be 'business' as usual . . .

"Former FBI Director James Comey didn't know a lot during Friday's congressional testimony - claiming hundreds of times (245 according to Trump) that he simply couldn't remember various things. What Comey did remember, however, confirms that the FBI could not verify the dossier submitted by former UK spy Christopher Steele - which the agency used as the foundation of a spy warrant application to surveil the Trump campaign."

Read it all here;

So far the Mueller investigation, which Comey's testimony is one part of, has cost the taxpayer $30,000,000. Yep, 'business' as usual.
Obituaries / FREISNER, Harold Eugene "Hal" - b. October 6, 1955 - d. November 29, 2018
« Last post by patyrn on December 07, 2018, 08:25:12 pm »
Harold Eugene "Hal" Freisner of Severy, Kansas passed away on November 29, 2018 at his home.  He was born on October 6, 1955 in Fredonia, Kansas, the son of Oleas Thomas and Vivian Mae (Weatherbee) Freisner.

Hal was raised in Fall River, Kansas and attended school there and at Severy.  He joined the United States Navy and served on the USS Marion based out of Corpus Christi, Texas.  He retired from the Navy after twenty years of service.

In February 1993, Hal was united in marriage to Connie Shinn.  She preceded him in death on May 28, 2015.  On August 7, 2018, he was married to Traci Sloan in Severy, Kansas.

Hal is survived by his wife, Traci of the home; sister, Virginia Van Buskirk of Severy, Kansas; and brothers, Donald Freisner of Olpe, Kansas and James Aikman of Severy, Kansas.

No services are planned at this time.  Cremation has been effected.  Koup Family Funeral Home of Eureka, Kansas is overseeing arrangements.

(taken from the Koup Family Funeral Home website)
Natural Health & Wellness / Flu Shot Misinformation
« Last post by Wake-up! on December 06, 2018, 10:29:20 am »
"The primary justification for the Center for Disease Control's (CDC) flu vaccine policy is the assumption that it significantly reduces the mortality rate among people aged 65 and older, the group at highest risk of potentially deadly complications from the flu. The CDC declares to the public that the vaccine does so as though this was a scientifically proven fact. Yet, the reality is that the CDC’s bold claim that the vaccine greatly reduces the risk of death among the elderly has been thoroughly discredited by the scientific community.

'… contrary to the CDC’s claims of a great beneficial effect on mortality, influenza mortality and hospitalization rates for older Americans significantly increased in the 80s and 90s, during the same time that influenza vaccination rates for elderly Americans dramatically increased'."

Read the full article here;
Politics / Miseducated or Stupid? . . .
« Last post by redcliffsw on December 05, 2018, 06:35:31 pm »

Certainly government is the wrong institution to have a powerful influence in educating children. A major result is that government uses its tax power to glorify itself. Over time, it worms its way into the historical narratives taught in schools. Some famous and influential philosophers have advocated this very result as being appropriate for society, and this just makes matters worse. Public education finds advocates, and the children’s minds are systematically filled with rubbish and robbed of proper education.
-Michael Rozeff

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