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Capper for 1858 Rem New Army Model .44
« on: January 29, 2006, 06:46:25 PM »
What is the best Capper for the '58 New Army Model .44? There are several shown on the Cabela site. Which one is the best, and easiest (safest) to use? Thanks.
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Re: Capper for 1858 Rem New Army Model .44
« Reply #1 on: January 29, 2006, 08:04:49 PM »
An inline capper works best, but you may have to take the cap keeper(feed end) off and reshape the end. I bought a cheap Traditions inline capper , removed the black flat spring from the feed end and reshaped the square end lip to match the nipple cutout in the cylinder. works pretty well but none of the cappers work extremely well. Inlines are the best however.
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Re: Capper for 1858 Rem New Army Model .44
« Reply #2 on: January 29, 2006, 08:36:29 PM »
The Ted Cash in-line capper with two steel springs on the tip fits with the most clearance. I grind off the "lips" so they are out of the way. If you can get the steel rather than the brass capper, it will be less likely to bend when you frantically cap on the clock.
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Re: Capper for 1858 Rem New Army Model .44
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Re: Capper for 1858 Rem New Army Model .44
« Reply #3 on: January 30, 2006, 07:30:32 AM »
I've never shot Frontiersman and didn't realize that you "...capped on the clock..."
I thought all capping was done at the loading station. do you charge the sixth chamber and then cap it on the clock or do you have to charge and cap at the same time??

 I shoot Frontier Cartridge and just the pistol targets until Ii get completely set up (I don't mind donating my money to shoot) and I shoot (right now) one C & B Revolver and one Conversion Revolver. Did have a stage where we had to reload on the clock and of course I used the Conversion for that part of the stage. I use 3 C & B cylinders, capped at the loading station.
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Re: Capper for 1858 Rem New Army Model .44
« Reply #4 on: January 30, 2006, 08:11:14 AM »
someone sure needs to make a capper that will work on the remmies .. the only one i`ve got that works is made by knight made for the inlines .. and it only holds 9 caps .. so it isn`t much good still have to open a cap can . i did find a nice silver can that is just a little bigger than a cap can and heavyer , i keep it in a vest pocket and it works well , not as much fumbling to get it open and it has a wider opening for my big fingers ..lol  i think dixie gun works carrys these type cans pretty cheap made from everything from wood to german silver .
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Re: Capper for 1858 Rem New Army Model .44
« Reply #5 on: January 30, 2006, 09:47:21 PM »
1/2 way Cr. Charlie,
Capping on the clock only occurs where there is a call for a RELOAD on the clock. 99% of the time it is a stage where you cap at the loading table.

Here's an old posting of mine regarding cappers:
For the Colts just about any in-line capper will do. I have improved upon them by grinding off a little of the tip of the spring that protrudes beyond where it holds the cap. The brass part opposite the steel spring is also ground back some so the capper can be placed directly over the cones (the polite Victorian term for "nipples"). The grindings eliminate the extra metal that gets in the way of fast capping on the clock.
For the Remingtons, the Ted Cash in-line capper is best because the two thin steel springs that hold the cap in place will fit into the tighter cylinder/cone cutout better. I also grind off the extra spring steel that sticks out beyond the cap. The brass part under the cap on the Ted Cash in-line cappers tends to bend back when capping in a hurry and is the only weakness in the design that I have seen. The cheepo cappers from McGees @$3.90 [no longer in business] each work fine for me after grinding.
As for the teardrop cappers, I keep dropping caps out of them and losing caps in the gravel at the range. When they work, they work well.
I keep an in-line capper and cone pick on a cord through my vest button hole for on the clock  "reloads".
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Re: Capper for 1858 Rem New Army Model .44
« Reply #6 on: January 31, 2006, 08:51:00 AM »
AMEN Hellgate .. i couldn`t have said it better , most darksiders are the most helpful teachers there ever was!  it doesn`t take much to get someone interested .. and after you let a newbie fire a few rounds , its like setting the hook ...i always go the extra mile to keep `em shooting as trouble free as possible , in fact lately i`ve gone as far as cleaning their guns after a shoot so they will see the importance of propper cleaning , and at first most don`t think of the cleaning as a fun part .. only the old guys could find enjoyment in such a chore ...( somehow i get pleasure from propper cleaning its like a babtisim for the holy black ) and shooting the holy black in so moveing  like a religous expericence . the first words from a new shooters lips are always Hey this is great !! so pards keep on teachin as long as someone listens , modern powder is just a fad that will surely pass .. ;D
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Re: Capper for 1858 Rem New Army Model .44
« Reply #7 on: January 31, 2006, 11:51:20 AM »
Yeah Sundance,
The cleaning can be seen as a ritual purification...............making the "unclean" clean again...............as in born agian through babtism. Also, 'cause of the smell, it makes a great wife & kids repellant during the spiritual renewal (cleaning process) where I meditate on the day's shoot.
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