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« Reply #75 on: January 07, 2019, 01:06:08 pm »

My understanding is that the Russians requested the ammo change from .44 American (outsized lube bullet) to the inside lube "Russian" style very early within S&W's production for them, and the large number of arms they were ordering from S&W, Smith was happy to comply for the same reason.


S&W's first offering to the US Gov. was in the .44 (Henry) rim fire. These were rejected. The US Army wanted a center fire. So, in hopes of getting a USA contract, Smith devoloped what became known as the .44-100 "American" centerfire. It was believed that centerfire cases would be easier for Armorers to reload and save on cost to the Gov.
US orders never amounted to much, but Smith kept the American chambering available

I can't quot were this "understanding" of mine comes from off hand... but I believe it is disscused in the Neal & Jinks book.

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« Reply #76 on: January 08, 2019, 02:20:55 am »

DJ thanks for all the info here, it's interesting and invaluable. I'd hazard a guess that give the way you deal with these subjects and going over ever tiny details of revolvers and cartridges, you must have an engineering background.

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« Reply #77 on: January 13, 2019, 06:28:11 pm »

Gave Cimarron a call last week and was told that the only hold up was getting the ok from the ATF to bring them into the country..They figure they will be on the shelves by June starting with the 45colt  models coming out first,,Other calibers will follow sometime around Sept.
Asked about price and was told (around $1100)

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« Reply #78 on: January 13, 2019, 07:12:15 pm »

Usually for a new Uberti model, Mike Harvey will send them an original, but I'm pretty darn sure he didn't this time!





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« Reply #79 on: January 13, 2019, 08:01:50 pm »

Always loved that particular revolver!  Cottonwood Springs is right here in Nebraska!
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« Reply #80 on: Today at 09:56:37 am »

Unless I missed it somewhere I don't see the American Model at Cimarron's booth for the SHOT Show. Abilene, what gives?  Huh Huh
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« Reply #81 on: Today at 11:26:41 am »

Unless I missed it somewhere I don't see the American Model at Cimarron's booth for the SHOT Show. Abilene, what gives?  Huh Huh

Beats me.  This is my 2nd year of not going to Shot Show, so I'm out of the loop on some stuff.  I see A.D.Texaz or Shootin' Steele at Texican Ranger matches and ask them.   Smiley
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