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« on: August 30, 2017, 10:55:21 am »


I've got 2 different manufacturers versions of the same RCMP collar insigna. One is hollow brass while the other is solid brass?? But the problem is that the finish looks different, one looks more brassy yellow than the other. Polishing doesn't change the look. Can they be painted with something to make them match?
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« Reply #1 on: August 30, 2017, 02:41:12 pm »

Paint them with Testor's 'Brass' model paint.

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« Reply #2 on: August 30, 2017, 05:15:54 pm »

Kinda what I was thinking, enamel or isn't there some kind of gilt paint?
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« Reply #3 on: August 30, 2017, 06:18:49 pm »

use  Rust-Oleum Specialty Metallic Gold Spray Paint
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 Krylon Short Cuts Spray Paint in Gold Leaf
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« Reply #4 on: August 30, 2017, 07:59:00 pm »

Ed, please take this in the light of well-intended advice (from someone who is admittedly a stickler for period-correct insignia) rather than criticism: if the collar badges you have are for a GAF uniform/impression I do hope that your reference to the collar badges as "RCMP" is a typo, because the Royal Canadian Mounted Police did not exist until 1 February 1920, when the Royal North West Mounted Police (which had jurisdiction only in the Canadian West (i.e. west of Ontario) was merged with the Dominion Police (which had jurisdiction in Eastern Canada.)

For that matter, until 1904 the name of the Force was "North West Mounted Police" (the honorific "Royal" not having been granted the the Force until that year.)

The correct badge from the creation of the NWMP in 1873 until after Queen Victoria's Death in early 1901 is this:



Note the distinctly shaped "Victorian Crown" at the top, and the name "North West Mounted Police".


For the very brief period of 1901 to 1904 the crown surmounting the badge was changed to the so-called "King's Crown" -



Note the quite significant change in the shape of the crown ...


From 1904 to 1920, the badge was quite similar to the one above, but the name on the scroll at the bottom changed to "Royal North West Mounted Police" -

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Major John M. Robson, Royal Scots of Canada, 1883-1901
Sgt. John Robson, Queen's Own Rifles of Canada, 1885
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« Reply #5 on: August 30, 2017, 09:48:01 pm »

Rattlesnake, thanks for the badge information. More hunting for more neat old pieces of history. I have read many of your knowledgeable answers and posts. And believe I even met you briefly at the Wyoming State match many years ago. I also am a Webley and British militaria collector though not to your depth. I'm not a GAF member though I would love to be involved with you guys. NC is a little too far east. For now my RCMP impression will be more of a Sgt Preston of the Mounties not a historical NWMP impression. I'm currently building a Winchester 1873 Spanish Contract carbine which will look like your faux 76/73 src with a full stock, sling swivels and a exposed ramrod. More research and $$ needed  if I do something historical.


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« Reply #6 on: September 03, 2017, 08:54:59 pm »

Ed, we could well have met at Cody ... although I only made it there one year - 2005 - as I recall.   I did win the Military Dress Uniform award there that year:



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Rattlesnake Jack Robson, Scout, Rocky Mountain Rangers, North West Canada, 1885
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