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Nipples and Caps for Uberti 1860 and 1851's - question
« on: May 14, 2017, 08:42:18 PM »
Gents,

New to BP, been playing with .45 LC cartridges, and have had so much fun with those - so I got me two Ubertis - and 1860 Army (.44) and 1851 Navy (.36).  Been reading here about replacement nipples, and the importance of proper-fitting nipples to avoid chain-fire.  I'm asking the for some experienced advice here to save me some money and experimentation.

Seems there's three nipple brands - Treso, Slix-shot, and Track of the Wolf.. and two brands with two sizes of caps each (not counting RWS) - CCI and Remington tens and elevens.  

What cap is the best fit on my stock, out-of-the-box guns?  I'm willing to replace all 12 nipples if the performance is warranted, and if I do - what combo of nipple and cap should I use?

Thanks - Bob

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Re: Nipples and Caps for Uberti 1860 and 1851's - question
« Reply #1 on: May 14, 2017, 10:54:08 PM »
Remington # 10s will be your best fit on stock or replacement nipples.  If you replace the nipples, Treso or Slix Shots in combination with the aforementioned #10 Remingtons will you best bet.
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Re: Nipples and Caps for Uberti 1860 and 1851's - question
« Reply #2 on: May 15, 2017, 02:02:42 AM »
Remington # 10s will be your best fit on stock or replacement nipples.  If you replace the nipples, Treso or Slix Shots in combination with the aforementioned #10 Remingtons will you best bet.

+1.  The Track of the Wolf is basically a stainless steel version of the Treso.

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Re: Nipples and Caps for Uberti 1860 and 1851's - question
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Re: Nipples and Caps for Uberti 1860 and 1851's - question
« Reply #3 on: May 15, 2017, 02:49:47 AM »


This is a pic I shot for an article that appeared in "The Shootist" several years ago.

It shows pretty clearly why you would want to change out the nipples. On the left is a stock Italian nipple, on the right a Treso. The Italian nipples have a rounded shoulder, designed so that it'll accept any cap, but prone to have caps fall off into the works. The after-market nipples have a square shoulder that holds caps much better.

The caps are, l. to r., Remington #10, #11, Dynamite Nobel #1075 caps, and CCI #10 and #11.

Most readily found available are the Remington #10's, a good reason to use those as your standard. They fit well and give good service.

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Re: Nipples and Caps for Uberti 1860 and 1851's - question
« Reply #4 on: May 15, 2017, 08:05:50 AM »
What Fingers, Pettifogger, and RC John said....#10 Remingtons. I've found they do and have worked (and worked best) on every Italian made Colt/Remington made C&B using the stock nipples made by either Uberti and Pietta. Do a search on the subject, there has been several lengthy threads over the last 1-2 years on the subject of stock vs aftermarket nipples and percussion caps. Read Mako's informative information in the 'Dark Arts' on nipples and caps titled 'Cap Gun Primer: Correct Cone Length'.
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Re: Nipples and Caps for Uberti 1860 and 1851's - question
« Reply #5 on: May 15, 2017, 11:23:29 AM »
Thanks gents, and I have to admit I didn't notice the 'dark arts' section before.  Lots of info there.

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Re: Nipples and Caps for Uberti 1860 and 1851's - question
« Reply #6 on: May 15, 2017, 04:05:16 PM »
I just hate being "Tail End Charlie."  What a GROAN.  But .......... PILING ON HERE!!  (Mostly)

Yes.  Change out the OEM nipples.  I prefer and recommend SlixShot.  Optimized for Remington #10 Caps.

So I'm just going to reiterate what Fingers, Pettifogger, RC John, Crow Choker and now I have said.  See??  Tail End Charlie ... SUX.

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Re: Nipples and Caps for Uberti 1860 and 1851's - question
« Reply #7 on: May 15, 2017, 05:02:45 PM »
I vote with the maker of Coffins
Remington #10 and Slixshot nipples are a great combination and what I used this weekend in my Pietta 1860 Army revolvers.
59 shots with no misses and one that I did not cap. No cap no bang one miss. DRAT. Ruined a perfectly good day.
I have a carton of CCI#11 caps they work so so and what I use for practice and save the Remmys #10 for the gunfight.
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Re: Nipples and Caps for Uberti 1860 and 1851's - question
« Reply #8 on: May 16, 2017, 08:51:45 PM »
51 Navy Colts plus SlixShot = Remington #11's
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Re: Nipples and Caps for Uberti 1860 and 1851's - question
« Reply #9 on: May 16, 2017, 11:10:02 PM »
John Boy,

Ah ...... No.  SlixShot nipples were optimized by the manufacturer for Remington #10 Caps.  Bore size not withstanding.

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Re: Nipples and Caps for Uberti 1860 and 1851's - question
« Reply #10 on: May 17, 2017, 11:10:18 AM »
CM, #10's don't fully seat on the SlixShot nipples I have on a pair of 51 Navy Colts.  The 11's do and have no jambs on cylinder rotations
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Re: Nipples and Caps for Uberti 1860 and 1851's - question
« Reply #11 on: May 17, 2017, 11:13:35 AM »
CM, #10's don't fully seat on the SlixShot nipples I have on a pair of 51 Navy Colts.  The 11's do and have no jambs on cylinder rotations

And, I have no problem with #10s fully seating on my 1861 Navies with Slix Shots.  No jams & spent caps stay on till removed.  
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Re: Nipples and Caps for Uberti 1860 and 1851's - question
« Reply #12 on: May 17, 2017, 11:14:42 AM »
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Re: Nipples and Caps for Uberti 1860 and 1851's - question
« Reply #13 on: May 17, 2017, 06:40:23 PM »
My wife hates "nipple talk" as the worst version of "bullet talk" which she tolerates.

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Re: Nipples and Caps for Uberti 1860 and 1851's - question
« Reply #14 on: May 19, 2017, 09:38:51 AM »
I have Coffinmaker Pietta 1860's .
I can tell you from experience.
I was a cartridge gun shooter before getting these 1860's
Slix nipples and Remington #10 caps will take care of Most of your issues with cap jamming.
Then Cap rakes installed in your guns will take care of the rest.
My cap guns are as reliable as my cartridge guns .

Also I have a Uberti 1849 getting Goonerized right now.
These Cap guns can be very reliable with some little tunning and good nipples.

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