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Offline Gabriel Law

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Plainsmen's rifles
« on: May 19, 2016, 02:26:28 PM »
Here's a couple of Hawken rifles I finished up this spring...a half stocked percussion .62 cal and a flintlock .50 cal fullstocked rifle.








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Re: Plainsmen's rifles
« Reply #1 on: May 19, 2016, 02:29:15 PM »
WOW!  :o
They are both awesome, but I really like the lighter color on the flintlock.  It makes the grain POP!
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Re: Plainsmen's rifles
« Reply #2 on: May 19, 2016, 02:34:22 PM »
Me too GT!

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Re: Plainsmen's rifles
« Reply #3 on: May 19, 2016, 03:14:31 PM »
GL,

Both are Great images!
Nice workmanship,
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Re: Plainsmen's rifles
« Reply #4 on: May 19, 2016, 03:41:20 PM »
Very nice, Gabriel!


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Re: Plainsmen's rifles
« Reply #5 on: May 19, 2016, 05:12:48 PM »
Those are gorgeous Gabriel.  Very nice work my friend.  Have you shot them yet?  If so, what did you use and how did they do.  Really loving the TLC you put into these man.

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Re: Plainsmen's rifles
« Reply #6 on: May 19, 2016, 07:22:41 PM »
I test fire every rifle/smoothie/pistol before it goes to its new home.  It is a selfish treat I give myself after months of building.  But it serves more practical purposes too.  It ensures that everything is in harmony and functions flawlessly.  And it gets the gun very close to being sighted-in.  the new owner must do the final shooting to find out what works for them, but it also satisfies me that the rifles, particularly, are accurate.

The .62 half stock used a .613" pure lead ball (from a Lyman .610 mold), a denim .022" patch and mink oil or neatsfoot oil for a patch, over 100 gr. of FFg GOEX.  I personally prefer 125 gr. with this loading, for best accuracy out of a .62 cal round ball rifle, but some shooters are recoil shy.
The .50 flinter fullstock was sighted with the same patch/lube combo and a .495" soft lead ball.  I used 80 gr. FFg GOEX.  I sight them at 50 meters...25 meters tells you little.

Some shooters don't use that much powder - wasteful (cheap) or too much recoil.  But I use the same charges I hunt with.  Target practice is also hunting practice.  My experience tells me that these charges/loads, yield the best accuracy.

I appreciate the kind words, partners.

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Re: Plainsmen's rifles
« Reply #7 on: May 22, 2016, 11:54:01 PM »
Great Hawken's!

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Re: Plainsmen's rifles
« Reply #8 on: May 23, 2016, 12:47:50 PM »
Sweeet!!  You are an artist, Sir!
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Re: Plainsmen's rifles
« Reply #9 on: May 23, 2016, 09:26:04 PM »
Those are really nice rifles, how much time do you have in each of them?

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Re: Plainsmen's rifles
« Reply #10 on: May 24, 2016, 10:50:18 AM »
Thanks for the kind words lads!  I started these two rifles at the same time - November 1, 2015, and worked on them simultaneously until they were both finished at the same time - April 9, 2016.  So that's five months.  I worked on them pretty steadily over that time, but there were a few times when nothing was accomplished for various reasons.  I usually got between six and eight hours each day to work on them.  I don't keep good track of the time.  I'm not a fast builder, but I don't waste time either.  And I'm a fussy old fool.

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Re: Plainsmen's rifles
« Reply #11 on: May 24, 2016, 01:13:43 PM »
My specific area of building custom made firearms dates from 1840 to 1865 Military type arms from both the US and CS production.
It may take me several years to put together the original parts, or new made parts of high enough quality before I felt I could start a new custom build. Once I had those required parts, the build would only take me about 6 weeks to fit and finish it out to the Military specs for this period of time.
However, I did this sort of work for 40 years or more, and one might expect that I had become quite quick with it.
Also, Military firearms have to fall within very specific guide lines and measurements to be accepted.
Gabriel, thank you for your posting, these are very nice workmanship!
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Re: Plainsmen's rifles
« Reply #12 on: May 25, 2016, 08:27:20 AM »
Awesome rifles, Sir.
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