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Offline SimmerinLightning

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Cappers
« on: August 19, 2015, 07:24:12 PM »
I've been trying to use an inline capper; it seems pretty useful for flipping cap across the lawn. I had one years ago when I first fiddled with percussion revolvers and, as near as I can recall, it worked okay. I don't know whether I just have a bad one or what. So I have been using my big fat clumsy sausage fingers to cap. Works better than the capper but still results in a few misplaced caps.

What do you use or recommend?

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Re: Cappers
« Reply #1 on: August 19, 2015, 08:15:55 PM »
I don't really know how to adequately answer your question.  When I started with Cap Guns, I Of course had several in-line cappers.  Came with the starter kit from Cabelas.  I managed to flip Caps across the shop, across the deck, across the back porch, into the weeds, well you get the idea.  Did not play well with me at all.  I tossed em.

My Prime shooting partner, uses nothing but in-line cappers.  He even gets the Caps on the nipples.  Makes me feel ...... inadequate.  Almost.  Guy is a real hoot trying to use a "Snail" capper.  Fun to watch.  Laughed my butt off.  Got even I did. Yepper!!

Now, part of your question.  I use Snail Cappers.  I have two.  One all Brass and one Nickel plated.  Both work equally well.  A L'il flick of the wrist to get the caps (#10) down into the snout and presto chango, on the nipples.  A caveat.  The Caps DO NOT seat completely, no matter what Capper I use.  So, I have a "Cap Seater" I use to final seat the caps on the nipples, being careful not to shove too hard and put a ball thru the loading table (some bad joss there).  By final seating the Caps, I never have a "fail to fire."  Go BANG everytime.

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Re: Cappers
« Reply #2 on: August 19, 2015, 09:31:34 PM »
In addition to what Coffin Maker said, you left out a VITAL fact.  What kind of gun are you trying to cap?  Remington and Colt are worlds apart when it comes to capping.

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Re: Cappers
« Reply #3 on: August 19, 2015, 09:38:48 PM »
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Re: Cappers
« Reply #4 on: August 19, 2015, 10:57:19 PM »
Uberti 1851's

Snail Capper, and by the way, they too must be adjusted and tweeked some what to operate properly.
I buy them in the Cabela's Bargain Cave, usually half-off the original price. Seems the Remington shooters buy them. Then return, because they will not work.

I also have two, loaded all the time. One is a back-up and a loaner. Some Cowboys forget to put their capper in the gear back when packing for a shoot. I have had to loan my spare out several times.

I carry a straight line capper in my gear bag. If you every have a stage that requires a reload it comes in handy. Load six, cap five at the loading table. When the timer goes off, cap the sixth round, proceed with the stage. I find a snail capper to be un-friendly in this situation.

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Re: Cappers
« Reply #5 on: August 20, 2015, 07:53:17 PM »
Lots of truths.
I have many cappers. Some purchased, some gifted. Some Great, some junk.

40+ years of C&B - I always use a capper. It seats the cap fine for me. I "feel"for a good seat when using the capper, lots of practice. BTW, pressing too hard during seating can result in crushing the priming compound...if crushed, it can squeeze priming around the nipple (leaving no compound between the cup & anvil) - er cap and cone/nipple)... No priming compound in the right place leads to "click", "snap" (no "boom").

How important is my capper...this will illustrate:
Temporarily lost track of one of my three cappers at a recent match. All thee are tethered. One is tied to my vest & in a pocket (my rare "straight" in-line capper). Two Cash Mfg. "side" in-line cappers (carefully adjustedto feed like a charm) are tied together on leather lanyards. Theory on the tied pair is that two are easier spotted than one. Its worked beautifully for years.

Well, One of the knots slipped on the 2-capper lanyard and one capper is missing. Bit of a panic on my part, frantic search.....Miracle - found in the grass 100yds away & 5 minutes later. 15 minutes later...same capper has fallen from my cart. Guess it fell out when pulling my reloading gear.. Backtrack to stage 6, ...5 minutes later -  found!!. Shot the last stage, somehow clean & a clean match...and......where is that danged capper. Yes, I'd dropped it somehow. Five minutes later I found it again.
Third time lost I think I told folks I was walking the grounds looking for my medication (I needed some).

All are securely re-tied, security double-knots and a drop of glue to lock them. Someone suggested a retractable lanyard. Thank goodness it wasn't my rare "straight" in-line capper.
Likely would be pulling a "Fred Sanford".  :)

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Re: Cappers
« Reply #6 on: August 20, 2015, 10:35:11 PM »
Quote from: coffinmaker
Now, part of your question.  I use Snail Cappers.  I have two.  One all Brass and one Nickel plated.  Both work equally well.  A L'il flick of the wrist to get the caps (#10) down into the snout and presto chango, on the nipples.  A caveat.  The Caps DO NOT seat completely, no matter what Capper I use.  So, I have a "Cap Seater" I use to final seat the caps on the nipples, being careful not to shove too hard and put a ball thru the loading table (some bad joss there).  By final seating the Caps, I never have a "fail to fire."  Go BANG everytime.

I use TDC snail cappers exclusively (Only shoot Colts - don't like Remingtons).  Have two nickel and two worn out brass ones.  The flik of the wrist move is what it takes to install and seat a #10 Remington cap.  Don't use or need a seating stick.  Cappers are holstered in a capper holder on my pistol belt.

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Re: Cappers
« Reply #7 on: August 21, 2015, 06:02:48 PM »
Well ...... Hi Fingers  ;D

Probably, I just don't shove hard enough on the capper.  Two Ted Cash, One Brass, One Nickel.  Always take both along even though on holds 100 caps. 
Have this nifty small pouch i just threw in the "leather drawer" for years.  Then,  Disaster!!  A nefarious individual who called himself my friend, led me down the path to the Dark Side. Oh yea, the pouch.  Dug the pouch out of the drawer and it's the exact right size for a snail capper.  Real convenient.
I also DO NOT like Remingtons.  When still open for business, I did cut a bunch of Remmy cylinders so you could use a capper.  I just don't play with things that hurt me.  Remmys hurt me.  Mark my middle finger something awful.  Uck.

Think I'm gonna piddle with some #11s too.  Lousy Escargot though.  Fine for caps  ::)

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Re: Cappers
« Reply #8 on: August 22, 2015, 04:44:18 AM »
I just modified the tip of my inline capper a tad works fine on my Remington. wM1
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Re: Cappers
« Reply #9 on: August 22, 2015, 06:20:23 PM »
Used a straight liner when starting out with cap n' ball's (1972-EruoArms 1851 44 Caliber that had 'Army Model' stamped on top of the barrel-thought it to be the truth). In 2007 when I bought a Uberti 2nd Model Dragoon and Colt Sig Model 3rd Model Dragoon, I purchased a Cash snail capper and haven't used a straight line capper since on the Colts. I do use a straight liner on a Pietta 58' Remington, but plan on opening up the area around the nipples so the snail can be used. I did this with a Uberti 58' Rem kit and the Cash snail capper fits nicely in the cavity, just have to finish the kit so I'z can shoot her!!!!!! Never had to adjust the Cash, worked fine from the get-go!
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Re: Cappers
« Reply #10 on: August 22, 2015, 07:42:37 PM »
You know, I almost bought a snail capper, but I never had used one and I had used a straight-line before, and it worked fine then. Figures.

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Re: Cappers
« Reply #11 on: August 23, 2015, 12:23:22 AM »
If I had to use a straight line capper in a match, I would spend half my time loading the thing. A hundred round Snail Capper, kinda spoils me don't ya know.

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Re: Cappers
« Reply #12 on: August 23, 2015, 01:25:55 PM »
If I had to use a straight line capper in a match, I would spend half my time loading the thing. A hundred round Snail Capper, kinda spoils me don't ya know.

+1.  I have a whole bunch of straight line cappers and they are a PITA.  Takes forever to load them and they never feed the last few caps well.  Plus, if one tips over in the capper it can be a real pain trying to get it out of there or turn it back over.  The are all sitting in my miscellaneous box of stuff I don't use anymore.  Except for one OLD inline that was milled from bar stock.  I bought that thing back in the early 1960s.  I keep that one on a lanyard so I can hang it aournd my neck if the stage calls for a one shot reload.  The stronger material allows me to cap and seat quicklly.

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Re: Cappers
« Reply #13 on: August 24, 2015, 09:36:48 AM »
BIG 10-4's on what Lefty Dude and Pettifogger said!!!!!!!! Having to use a straight liner on my Remington tells me why I like the snail over the straight. I even load up all three of the straights I have when needed still despise them.
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Re: Cappers
« Reply #14 on: August 24, 2015, 01:13:03 PM »
I use them both.  I keep about 8 or 9 inline cappers in my bag and usually a snail capper in my vest.  I have/had a brass snail capper.  It dropped down the stairs to the concrete floor.  No explosions, but it will never work again.  now I need to get another.   I fire a colt 1860 or a dance bros.   Both like either type.

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Re: Cappers
« Reply #15 on: August 24, 2015, 04:38:46 PM »
Well ...... Hi Fingers  ;D

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