Kinda off topic and may be requires a new thread. Gary mentioned else where as " arriving in late 2005" at USFA.
With no public records available (that I know of) too get a handle on just how rare the USFA guns and the USPFA guns were before USFA I think one of the first things required is an accurate company time line.
When was USPFA started and when did it change to USFA.
When did USFA formally shut the doors?
Are any factory records available online? Any company catalogs on line besides the one PDF I posted recently?
I originally bought USFA guns because they were the best of the traditional styled SAA guns I had ever seen as shooters. I've not deviated from that path far. The guns I have bought have been guns I would typically shoot. But with so much speculation/collection buying in the USFA market in the last couple of years; the details, beginning to end, are going to become very important and directly tied to the value/prices of the USPFA guns and the USFA guns in the future.
This forum is a eclectic set of facts, thrown in with a a great deal of conjecture and opinion. All of it totally unorganized. May be we should think about changing that. In the long run a reliable resource/data/info will benefit any USFA/USPFA owner.
BTW, Nice gun Pangaea! I was hoping you would post a good picture of that beauty. I intentionally put out Kies' guns as bait
Is the engraver and grip maker known? Are either signedSigned? Any thought if this gun is a factory gun Gary? Checkered ivory really ups the Omni game on Kies' other smooth ivory and fire blue screw Omni guns.
Engraving? Which is what brought all this all to mind for me originally. With no factory letters or legit provenance what does it matter? Is an Adam's Sr. or Harper (both master Colt engravers at different times) signed master level gun worth any less than a Colt version by the same engraver? The Colt factory version may well cost more at retail first time around but resale value is likely going to be a totally different story in my experience. Master level engraved guns have to some of the best financial investments around these days for the original owners.