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« Reply #100 on: August 26, 2017, 07:30:20 pm »

Hi

I have a Krag question, if this should be its own thread, feel free.

I'd like to get a Krag, either a rifle or Carbine.  I'd like to get a book on the Krag, but with a specific purpose.  I need a book that shows enough detail to be sure I get a FULL rifle or a FULL Carbine and not something that will cost me a lot to bring back to its original state.  Which book would be best for that purpose.  I need to know before the Wannemaker Tulsa Gun show in November 2017.  It's my understanding that the CMP will rebarrell Krags, but for a price. 

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« Reply #101 on: August 26, 2017, 07:36:46 pm »

https://www.buymilsurp.com/the-american-krag-rifle-and-carbine-2nd-edition-revised-p-5397.html

Criterion makes the Barrels, they come indexed, most any gunsmith can screw them in.  Get them from CMP or from the manufacturer.  CMP installation is seriously backlogged from what I hear.
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« Reply #102 on: August 26, 2017, 08:41:17 pm »

Yep, That's The best book i know of
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« Reply #103 on: November 09, 2017, 02:32:41 pm »

Hi Y'all

Headed off to Tulsa Wannemacher show this weekend.  My current nefarious plan is to purchase the first whole 30-40 Krag that has a decent looking barrel.  My plan includes wanting to find a carbine, but as I don't yet own SAM / Philippine Insurrection uniforms, I don't care so much.  Not like I already have a horse to feed.  If memory serves, Carbines are in "short" supply and I don't really think I want a sporterized model.

I have two of the suggested books and have been reading a little.  I"ll be taking both with me.  I'd have shopped gun broker more, but none of the entries had pictures of the bore.

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« Reply #104 on: November 09, 2017, 05:50:58 pm »

Good luck!  Take a pull thru and some Ballistol.  A lot of bad looking bores are just dirty!
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« Reply #105 on: November 09, 2017, 06:45:24 pm »

Ll see about getting a 30 cal pull through after I get off the range.
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« Reply #106 on: November 12, 2017, 02:31:36 pm »

Hi

I haven't had time for pictures yet, but I managed to purchase a decent, reasonably correct Krag Carbine from 1896 at the Tulsa Gun Show.  The sights are Rifle sights, but I now ALSO own a correct Oiler and cleaning rod for the butt stock.  When I picked it up, it had tree of the middle pieces of a Krag cleaning rod.  I also have a replacement hopper spring and an ejector.  Larry Brown out of Indiana is a great Krag guy.  The bore has rifling but it's shallow.  I'm ordering brass, and cleaning supplies for it.  This is my FIRST .30 caliber so I have no brushes, jags etc.

So, Krag Carbine = Philippine Insurrection for Expansion Era right or Spanish American War for Victorian era match right?

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« Reply #107 on: November 12, 2017, 02:59:15 pm »

Yep, Krag works for everything.  Doubt the rifling is "shallow" , might be a lot of copper fouling in there.   Took me a long time to get down to steel in my 1st Krag rifle.  Get some of that foam cleaner, works great.  And a lot of .303 brushes!  I look forward to pictures!
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« Reply #108 on: November 13, 2017, 12:40:47 am »

Hi again

Full length size or neck size the 30-40 Krag?  I neck size on the other bottle neck cartridge bolt action rifles I own.  I don't own full-length sizing dies for those.

I plan on ordering Oregon Trail 200 grain bullets.  I"m not sure on the powder yet, but I have SOME Trail Boss and loads of 4350.

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« Reply #109 on: November 13, 2017, 04:38:13 am »

I neck size mine.
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« Reply #110 on: November 13, 2017, 07:44:35 am »

Hornady now makes a really easy to use neck sizing die that's less than thirty bucks.  Works great!
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« Reply #111 on: November 13, 2017, 12:03:23 pm »

I use a .308 sizer die. I'm thinking that I robbed my .310 expander ball from my 7.62x39 die set. Works fine.
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« Reply #112 on: Yesterday at 01:06:58 am »

Hi

I finished reading Foyer's "The American Krag Rifle and Carbine."  I have an 1898 Model built in June 1898.  It lacks a cut out in the stock for the saddle ring, which seems to imply that it was re-furbished in 1902.  It also has an either type 2 or 3 1898 rear sight.  There was very little copper in the bore, but a lot of burnt powder, the rifling seems to be much more distinct after a little cleaning. 

It was suggested that I clean the stock with Hoppe's, it is greasy.  Good idea or not?  How do I find out if this sucker saw any action or not?

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« Reply #113 on: Yesterday at 08:09:18 am »

http://springfieldresearchservice.com/

I full length size my brass but that doesn't mean that's necessary the right way to do it.
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« Reply #114 on: Yesterday at 08:15:10 pm »

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=Midwayusa+cleaning+the+rolling+block+video&view=detail&mid=04373E51EA0FE59101B304373E51EA0FE59101B3&FORM=VIRE
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« Reply #115 on: Yesterday at 08:47:40 pm »

I noted that Larry Potterfield mentions that what he was doing won't mess up the collector value of the Krag.  I also noted that the CMP offers re-parkerizing or re-bluing of the Krags.  That's not a good idea right?

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« Reply #116 on: Yesterday at 09:02:49 pm »

I'm currently building a Krag out of Ebay parts and a Criterion barrel.  That would be a candidate for rebluing.  As would a cut down or sporterized rifle.  If you have an intact Krag, a reblue will affect value negatively.

A parkerized Krag?  *shudder*
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« Reply #117 on: Yesterday at 10:16:28 pm »

Thanks Drydock, according to the guy at the Tulsa Show (Krag fixer and parts guy), I have a pretty much intact Krag Carbine.  I hope it shoots as good as it looks.  I has been re-furbished, but in 1902, so no big deal there.

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