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« Reply #125 on: December 18, 2017, 06:21:00 pm »

Sure can!  It can take a while to get it out, but remember it took a hundred years to get it there, too. 
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« Reply #126 on: December 29, 2017, 10:58:50 pm »

Hi

I spent the day putting some automotive cleaner called Sea Foam down the barrel.  I now have what appears to be rifling.  I've brushed the heck out of the barrel, whenever I quit brushing and run a patch, it comes out black.  But after running lead cleaner on the patches it eventually comes out clean.  Then when I brush again, I get another totally black patch.  I've quit for the night and the whole apartment smells funny, but the Sea Foam stuff doesn't have ammonia at least. 

I think I'll take a break and re-size the new Hornady brass I have. 

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« Reply #127 on: December 30, 2017, 01:34:33 am »

Hi again

O.K. I fibbed, no sizing the new brass.  I did manage to get the new magazine spring and the ejector installed.  I need to take it completely apart and clean it up.  The Bolt appears to be as dirty as the barrel was.  This isn't a difficult rifle to work on, but things like the magazine aren't exactly intuitive.

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« Reply #128 on: December 31, 2017, 03:41:18 pm »

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I took the bolt apart and got it put back together.  When the bolt is taken apart, the Safety lever moves 180 degrees.  When I get everything back in the bolt it only rotates 90 degrees.  I can't find any broken parts, dirt or anything to block the movement.

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« Reply #129 on: December 31, 2017, 04:24:09 pm »

https://www.amazon.com/American-Rifle-Carbine-Collectors-Only®/dp/1882391314
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« Reply #130 on: January 01, 2018, 02:36:17 am »

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I couldn't find the exact answer in the book, but Hickock45 has two videos with the Krag and his only rotates about 90 degrees. 

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« Reply #131 on: January 01, 2018, 11:07:24 am »

It should rotate 180.  My suggestion would be to strip the bolt per instructions, then reassemble.  Hickok only chose to rotate his 90, as it is easier to flip off from that position.  I carry mine on the farm the same way.
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« Reply #132 on: January 01, 2018, 01:06:10 pm »

It should rotate 180.  My suggestion would be to strip the bolt per instructions, then reassemble.  Hickok only chose to rotate his 90, as it is easier to flip off from that position.  I carry mine on the farm the same way.

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Does moving the safety from Side to Side involve pushing it in or out at all?  I cleaned what crud there was in the safety out and it moves from side to side with not in the bolt sleeve.  I don't want to force it too much.

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« Reply #133 on: January 01, 2018, 01:16:06 pm »

No, it should only rotate.  It may move in and out a little as it cams on the striker sleeve, but that's it.  Sometimes the camming surface can be deformed/burred, preventing rotation.
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« Reply #134 on: January 03, 2018, 10:54:32 pm »

I can't cast the Bullets for my Krag.  Has anyone used the Oregon Trail Bullets in 30 cal? Which size?    I was thinking of the 180 to 220 gn. Thanks.
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« Reply #135 on: January 03, 2018, 11:48:20 pm »

It should rotate 180.  My suggestion would be to strip the bolt per instructions, then reassemble.  Hickok only chose to rotate his 90, as it is easier to flip off from that position.  I carry mine on the farm the same way.

Been busy, but I did look at the bolt again and I have an idea what the problem is.  The Safety itself is clean because I could move it back and forth through 180 degrees when it wasn't attached to the bolt, that would mean that the bolt itself is the dirty part.  I hope to get back at it.

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« Reply #136 on: January 04, 2018, 07:11:38 am »

I can't cast the Bullets for my Krag.  Has anyone used the Oregon Trail Bullets in 30 cal? Which size?    I was thinking of the 180 to 220 gn. Thanks.
They should be fine, as long as the diameter fits your bore. My Krag likes .310, doesn't like .308 or .309.
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« Reply #137 on: January 04, 2018, 08:15:49 am »

My Krags also shoot .310, .308 do not work.
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« Reply #138 on: January 04, 2018, 10:25:17 am »

I can't cast the Bullets for my Krag.  Has anyone used the Oregon Trail Bullets in 30 cal? Which size?    I was thinking of the 180 to 220 gn. Thanks.
I use the 220gr from High Plains Shooter Supply for steel targets and the 220 gr RN from Hornady or Sierra for Long Range
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« Reply #139 on: January 20, 2018, 12:47:15 pm »

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I'm not quite there yet on the Hornady's but is there any reason to crimp?  I didn't use the powder die to stretch out the case before I loaded it?  I've never crimped jacketed bullets on a bolt action.

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« Reply #140 on: January 20, 2018, 03:47:19 pm »

As long as you didn't "bell" the case mouth as you would for cast bullets, then you probably don't need to crimp. I don't crimp rifle most ammo, other than if it's for a tube magazine rifle like 30-30.
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« Reply #141 on: January 20, 2018, 04:48:47 pm »

I've always used the Lee factory crimp die on both jacketed and cast bullets in my Krag "just because".  You can probably do without it if you have good neck tension.
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« Reply #142 on: January 20, 2018, 06:54:17 pm »

Thanks

I'll shoot a few with a full magazine and see if they get bopped on the head and set back or not.  I made 7 too many of the 40 grain IMR4350 loads.  The worst one took 7 raps on the Lyman bullet puller, the easiest took 3. 

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« Reply #143 on: January 22, 2018, 07:18:28 am »

I don't crimp my bottlenecks, but that's just me.
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« Reply #144 on: February 25, 2018, 10:32:07 pm »

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The PLAN was to go out and do some load working today, but it was windy.  Anyway, I think I worked out the pedigree on my Carbine.  This is an 1896 Krag Carbine.  The receiver is labeled “1896 SPRINGFIELD ARMORY 35xxx.  This serial number indicates that it is a Carbine made during June of 1896.  The Table on Serial numbers also states that Carbines in that range may have been used for ammunition testing.  It looks just like the pictures in Joe Poyer’s book, but it doesn’t have a Saddle Ring.  This could be because the carbine was built to use in ammunition testing, so they didn’t put on the Saddle Ring.  This carbine has a Type 2 Barrel Band.  The cartouche is JSA 1896 and is shaped like the picture in the book.  There is a U and a P (for Proof) behind the trigger guard.  The toe of the stock is rounded off as per this era of Krag.  The wrist of the stock from side to side is 1.520 inches, but it should have been either 1.8 inches or 1.685 inches.  I’m probably measuring the wrong place.  The book says that the1896 Carbines were refurbished and got re-stocked in 1900.  It appears that this carbine was not restocked (JSA 1896) but did have an 1896 rear rifle sight added instead of the carbine sight.  The base is calibrated from 300-600 yards and the leaf is calibrated from 700 to 1800 yards.  The grind marks show that it is a Type 1 or 2 rear sight.  This was just under $1000 out the door including a new Extractor, magazine spring, and cleaning rod from a second vendor.

The only current fault I have with it is the Safety.  It WORKS, but it doesn't go all of the way over from Left to Right.  The Safety goes from 0 to about 95 or 100 degrees and stops.  I had it apart and cleaned EVERYTHING again, but must have missed something.  The safety is ON at about 45-60 degrees somewhere.

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« Reply #145 on: April 16, 2018, 08:41:36 pm »

Great!  After seeing this, I now want to find a Krag!  Most people in my generation are into the AR-15 craze and here I am wanting rifles from the turn of the 20th Century! 
No, seriously a Krag has been on my wanted list for a while now.  Maybe not the top one of the list right now, but more interest is growing.
Anyway, new here and just wanted to comment.
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« Reply #146 on: April 17, 2018, 06:47:48 am »

My 1899 Constabulary/school rifle is one of my favorites. The bayonet's dated 1899 too.


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« Reply #147 on: April 17, 2018, 09:28:27 am »

Great!  After seeing this, I now want to find a Krag!  Most people in my generation are into the AR-15 craze and here I am wanting rifles from the turn of the 20th Century! 
No, seriously a Krag has been on my wanted list for a while now.  Maybe not the top one of the list right now, but more interest is growing.
Anyway, new here and just wanted to comment.
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If I'd been at the auction my brother was at Saturday, I'd have one for sale. He said there was one there that was in really good shape that sold for only $250
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« Reply #148 on: April 17, 2018, 09:40:12 pm »

I am so far away from actually actively looking for a Krag, I have other things to take care of first.  Still need to do research and actually get to know a lot more than I do now. 
Given a choice, I think finding a Magazine Lee-Metford/Magazine Lee-Enfield would hopefully be first in line, but that is not written in stone.  But that is a long term goal as well.
I guess this might be one of those "at the right time and place" things?  Meanwhile I'll lurk about here and see what I can learn.
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« Reply #149 on: May 16, 2018, 11:29:06 pm »

Hi

I went to the range today and shot my 5744 210 grain loads.  I got a LOT of Keyholes from 80% to 100% of max loads.  I have cleaned the barrel out a lot better than my original trys.  The barrel appears to be decently clean.  The barrel and the bullets are the same size (I'll check again tomorrow).  Is it LIKELY that buyng a larget diameter bullet would help this?

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