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Re: Chuck Wagon Question
« Reply #40 on: February 04, 2015, 08:24:55 PM »
Looks to be gonna be close to 500 pages, getting recipes done now, although that is a minor part of the book, just my favorite ones I do in camp, but writing them down is much harder than just making them, I'm having to do math on this part.   ;D

Do you have any other cook books out there a guy could access or acquire?

I think I'm gonna learn to do this, . . . or I'm gonna eat a lot of food that went from cast iron to skillet in the house then to the table.

Prefer cast iron to dinner ware.

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Re: Chuck Wagon Question
« Reply #41 on: February 05, 2015, 04:06:45 AM »
Great photos. There is a lot going on around the Chuck Wagon.......lots of gear and equipment. It kinda begs the question of status on the cattle drive. It seems from our perspective now, that the Cook had responsibility for so much.....buying food, storing food, setting up camp, creating shelter, cooking food that keeps guys happy with variation, clearing away and do it all again tomorrow. And yet literature and movie legacy paints the picture of the cook as somehow Lesser Than. Often depicted as a comic character, or cantankerous , definitely not a key figure, who would command respect, which he must have been. The cowboy on the other hand is depicted as independent and gallant. Movies, which despite thier historical accuracy, do depict human characters and situations, will show Cowboys quitting the Drive and leaving. What would have happened if the Cookie had saddled up and skedaddled? Or threatened to. Can you see all those cowpokes faces.

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Re: Chuck Wagon Question
« Reply #42 on: February 05, 2015, 08:43:01 AM »
Do you have any other cook books out there a guy could access or acquire?

I think I'm gonna learn to do this, . . . or I'm gonna eat a lot of food that went from cast iron to skillet in the house then to the table.

Prefer cast iron to dinner ware.

Thanks, may God bless,
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Enough here in receipts (old name for recipes) to keep you busy the rest of your life as far as historical cooking.  Most chuck wagon was just plain fair that was based on a quick bread of some sort, rice/beans and meat.   

 http://digital.lib.msu.edu/projects/cookbooks/html/browse_date.html
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Re: Chuck Wagon Question
« Reply #43 on: February 05, 2015, 09:32:51 AM »
When you look through those books you will figure out real quick that in the second half of the 19th century I'd say about 90% of what we eat today that is made at home is period food.  However you must take into account the more seasonal aspect of it, although transportation aka rail roads were tieing the country together, some supplies or ideas were more regional than today.

I am covering far more than chuckwagon/cowboy cooking and unless you are willing to dig deep and do 10-20 years research there is no one good book, that is what I am working on because if there was one I'd of bought a copy of it and wrote fiction if I still had a desire to write a book. ;)

I want to be done by fall, already decided it would not be what I want this spring, I do have the most part of the referance done and now need to get my camp recipes done so someone else can use them since anyone who has been in my camps has never seen me use measuring cups, or recipes that are printed out, maybe a few notes for a new dish, but not over 3-4 times in almost 30 years of camp cooking.

There are many little pamphlets or small books out there that claim to be historic "Oregon Trail" or "Chuckwagon" cook books, but if you have one, scan a few pages and post them and I'll show you the flaws.     

I've used this one the most and I just have a digital copy of the cover, never even seen a copy.
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Re: Chuck Wagon Question
« Reply #44 on: February 05, 2015, 11:00:46 AM »
Donner Party Cookbook;

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Re: Chuck Wagon Question
« Reply #45 on: February 05, 2015, 11:14:23 AM »
Yeah scrummy.

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Re: Chuck Wagon Question
« Reply #46 on: February 05, 2015, 11:45:22 AM »
If one reads the whole description it's a history book with what may or may not be proper 19th century recipes.   


http://www.amazon.com/Donner-Party-Cookbook-Survival-Hastings/dp/0972221735
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Re: Chuck Wagon Question
« Reply #47 on: February 07, 2015, 06:51:06 PM »
Found this photograph of a cooks wagon. The chuck box is a bit bigger than most that I have had a chance to look at .  If this has been posted before ,sorry for the re-run. ,,,,,DT

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Re: Chuck Wagon Question
« Reply #48 on: February 08, 2015, 10:16:47 AM »
Remembered that I had an old print of a cook wagon scene. Dug it out and found it had water damage . Here is a pic. of it ashamed to say it is signed by the artist as # 37 of 100. Will try to get it repaired. ,,,,,DT

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Re: Chuck Wagon Question
« Reply #49 on: February 08, 2015, 12:46:07 PM »
He's got almost as many dutch ovens as Delmonico!

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Re: Chuck Wagon Question
« Reply #50 on: February 08, 2015, 12:56:47 PM »
Dusty, . . .

This is not perfect by any means, . . . but it's a bit touched up.  Hope you like it.

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« Reply #51 on: February 08, 2015, 01:00:44 PM »
That looks real good , I hope mine can be saved . ,,,,,DT

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Re: Chuck Wagon Question
« Reply #52 on: February 08, 2015, 02:40:03 PM »
He's got almost as many dutch ovens as Delmonico!

I'll have 2 more of those 16" by the Muster.   
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Re: Chuck Wagon Question
« Reply #53 on: February 08, 2015, 03:35:35 PM »
dwight55,& DT,

Great images!
Any idea at the time period of these posted images?
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Re: Chuck Wagon Question
« Reply #54 on: February 08, 2015, 04:08:38 PM »
I think that first one posted was  from 1907 ,and second one I want to say was an image of a JA ranch cook but not sure. I do not know the date.,,,,,DT

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Re: Chuck Wagon Question
« Reply #55 on: February 08, 2015, 04:27:42 PM »
He's got almost as many dutch ovens as Delmonico!
I don't know! I don't think any two outfits has as much hardware as ole Del.,,,,,!

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Re: Chuck Wagon Question
« Reply #56 on: February 08, 2015, 05:26:50 PM »
That's because I'm often feeding far more than what a chuckwagon would have fed. 12 or more for them, sometimes 50 or more for me.

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Re: Chuck Wagon Question
« Reply #57 on: February 08, 2015, 05:37:46 PM »
DT,

Thank you.
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Re: Chuck Wagon Question
« Reply #58 on: February 10, 2015, 04:47:20 PM »
Del. I think it would be worth the trip up there just to see you handle that much making ready and cooking ! That is a task Pard !  ,,,DT       

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Re: Chuck Wagon Question
« Reply #59 on: February 10, 2015, 04:48:53 PM »
Mr. Blair. Always a pleasure Amigo! ,,,,,DT

 

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