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Can leather be treated to pevent verdigris?
« on: October 25, 2014, 07:43:19 PM »
I'd like to hear if any one has a process to treat leather so verdigris doesn't form on brass. Much as I like that old timey look I draw the line at my cartridges! ;D
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Re: Can leather be treated to pevent verdigris?
« Reply #1 on: October 25, 2014, 08:19:48 PM »
Then take the rounds out of the cartridge loops after you get home.

That'll pretty well prevent verdigris from developing, because it'll prevent the chemical interaction.

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Re: Can leather be treated to pevent verdigris?
« Reply #2 on: October 25, 2014, 09:26:52 PM »
I put nickle plated brass in my belt loops. No issues after a few years.
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Re: Can leather be treated to pevent verdigris?
« Reply #3 on: October 25, 2014, 10:07:30 PM »
With four-plus decades of making cartridge belts under my belt, I have not found anything that works permanently to prevent verdigris from forming on cartridges if you leave the rounds in the loops more than a day or so. This is due to the friction generated on any treatment after inserting and removing the cartridges from the loops. The best thing is to unload the belts after every shoot, unless you are going out again the next day. And, even then, if you are in a wet climate, I'd still recommend removing the rounds from the loops.
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Re: Can leather be treated to pevent verdigris?
« Reply #4 on: October 25, 2014, 11:06:26 PM »
rbertalotto, that's some thing I hadn't considered. I'll have to get some of them purtty nickel cases for carrying. As to pulling all of them out each day that's not so handy for me some times as I might be out for a week or better.
Trailrider, I don't do many shoots but do carry a fair amount. Anit it a shame no one has come up with a way to get what ever it is in leather out of it so we can get some time on it. I have noticed my old belt is slower to turn my brass nasty then this new one so maybe I could give it a cold wash and slow dry and see what happens.
I'm always open to suggestions and appreciate any ones help.
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Re: Can leather be treated to pevent verdigris?
« Reply #5 on: October 26, 2014, 07:46:32 AM »
Get a canvas cartridge belt. That's what the military did.

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Re: Can leather be treated to pevent verdigris?
« Reply #6 on: October 26, 2014, 08:20:27 AM »
Overlay the cartridge area with kydex and use canvas or plastic on the new surface for the loops!  The problem is that traditional methods require traditional fixes or else we have to go with the less aesthetic modern fixes.

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Re: Can leather be treated to pevent verdigris?
« Reply #7 on: October 26, 2014, 10:32:34 AM »
, I don't do many shoots but do carry a fair amount..

So do I. For my personal defence loads, I got a box of CCI Blazers, 200gr Gold Dot HP. Aluminum cases. I've had them in the loops for several years. No brass, no verdigris.
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Re: Can leather be treated to pevent verdigris?
« Reply #8 on: October 26, 2014, 06:33:09 PM »
Take your bullets out of the loops if it's going to be a while before shooting again , nickel casing will stand up to verdigris, but it's better to not plan on storing your bullets in your belt, storing is the problem, it's too easy to forget how long the brass has been exposed , just take the time to remove them and you'll be better for it.


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Re: Can leather be treated to pevent verdigris?
« Reply #9 on: October 26, 2014, 11:19:15 PM »
Don't try washing your belt - it's the chemical reaction from the tanning process that couples with the brass to form verdigris, so washing it and letting it dry isn't going to do anything.

Just get in the habit of removing your ammunition from the belt at the end of the shooting event, and reloading the belt before the next one.

If it's a humid environment - or if you sweat through your gear - then you'll 'really' need to do this, or change over to a web belt, as was suggested above.

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