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Cimmaron Old Model P
« on: April 20, 2014, 10:20:24 PM »
Hi!  I just obtained a Cimmaron Old Model P 5 1/2 in Bbl. In Charcoal blue and wanted to Post an observation.

I have a Pietta 4 3/4 in copy (Heritage) In the later frame format also, and was surprised when cleaning my Cimmaron that the cylinder bushing is a two piece affair compared to he later frame's one piece unit. I guess the Old Model P really is a copy of the SAA 1st gen!

BTW both are 45 Colt and fired with blackpowder loads!  THOMP!  :) :)
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Re: Cimmaron Old Model P
« Reply #1 on: April 22, 2014, 07:16:50 PM »
I love mine! A good revolver at a good price. I have run about 120 rounds through with no problems.  Accurate. 
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Re: Cimmaron Old Model P
« Reply #2 on: April 22, 2014, 09:22:08 PM »
Got one, too. Is it common for the cylinder to NOT be beveled in these models? A mite rough on the holster...
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Re: Cimmaron Old Model P
« Reply #3 on: April 22, 2014, 09:40:26 PM »
I don't know but wish they would put the black powder bevel on the cylinders.
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Re: Cimmaron Old Model P
« Reply #4 on: April 23, 2014, 12:37:08 PM »
I recently got a Cimmaron new (Prewar) Model P and its cylinder is beveled.

Are you saying the Cimmaron Old Model cylinders are not? And yet the original Colt BP cylinders were?

Oh and by the way, I agree, great value for the price! Love mine also! It just shoots low for me. 

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Re: Cimmaron Old Model P
« Reply #5 on: April 23, 2014, 03:07:01 PM »
I have three cimarron and one navy arms old model model Ps. All four have beveled cylinders.

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Re: Cimmaron Old Model P
« Reply #6 on: April 24, 2014, 09:21:59 PM »
If you have a two piece cylinder bushing it is broke.  The cylinder bushing in the Colts, Ubertis and Piettas are all one piece.  If yours is really two pieces, please post photos.

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Re: Cimmaron Old Model P
« Reply #7 on: April 26, 2014, 11:35:18 PM »
It isn't two piece, my mistake on wording as a newbie. It is my first revolver that the bushing is removable.

I apologize for the wording.
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Re: Cimmaron Old Model P
« Reply #8 on: April 30, 2014, 11:02:27 PM »
medic15al-

Your post is a little confusing... at least to me it is.  I have 2 Cimarron Custer 7.5" (Old Model Frame) cylinders are beveled; the 2 Uberti Cattlemen I have with 4.75" barrels are Old Model frames and their cylinders are beveled. My other two Uberti revolvers are Taylor & Co., Smoke Wagons 5.5" barrels (Pre War Models) their cylinders are beveled. The only Pietta's I have are 2 1860 Army that have been converted using Kirst Konverters, their cylinders are not beveled. I have never seen a two piece cylinder bushing...
What you are calling a Cylinder Bushing is a Base Pin Bushing that slides into the Cylinder and there is a Base Pin that slides into the revolvers main frame into the Base Pin which holds the cylinder in place. If the two pieces you are referring to is the above then yes it is two piece... the Cylinder Bushing and the Base Pin. If is is not, then I am lost in regards to your post. Look to the schematic that came with the revolver and it will tell you the name of the parts.  Pre-War models have a Base Pin Screw/Spring/Nut, Old Model Frames (sometimes called Black Powder Models) do not have this, they have a Base Pin Screw that keeps the Base Pin in place.
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Re: Cimmaron Old Model P
« Reply #9 on: May 05, 2014, 03:59:00 PM »
It is a removable pin, in one piece. I explained above that I misspoke  and used the wrong terminology. The cylinder has slight bevels on it, not Looking like the other examples of black powder bevels I have seen.
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Re: Cimmaron Old Model P
« Reply #10 on: July 19, 2014, 12:44:12 PM »
Pics of the Old Model P





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Re: Cimmaron Old Model P
« Reply #11 on: July 24, 2014, 04:27:11 PM »
Howdy
Here is a picture of my 44wcf .

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Re: Cimmaron Old Model P
« Reply #12 on: July 25, 2014, 04:08:07 PM »
That's Purdy!!!   That is my next purchase, contemplating that finish or the antique finish. I have a Pietta made imported by Heritage
in deep blue so I would kinda have the finishes covered.

It will be in 45 Colt as I don't need another inventory of dies and components.... Broke enough as I am!  ;D

I would love to get an example in 44 WCF and 38 WCF if I ever get ahead.  :'(
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Re: Cimmaron Old Model P
« Reply #13 on: July 25, 2014, 10:54:33 PM »
Howdy
I want to get a 4 3/4 45 colt next . I even thought about trading my 44wcf for a 45 .  ??? ??? ???

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Re: Cimmaron Old Model P
« Reply #14 on: July 25, 2014, 11:55:43 PM »
If at all possible keep the 44WCF and get the 45 as a mate. That way you can have both! Start reloading, esp Black powder and ammo expenses will decrease.
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Re: Cimmaron Old Model P
« Reply #15 on: July 26, 2014, 09:48:34 AM »
Howdy
I reload basically every caliber that I shoot . If I only used factory ammo  , I wouldn't shoot as much . Now today is Saturday so I'm headed out shooting . Then after shooting I have a few places to check for ground hogs .

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Re: Cimmaron Old Model P
« Reply #16 on: August 02, 2014, 01:19:39 PM »
Rowdy, I've started shooting 45's in my revolvers. It gives me the option to shoot 45 Schofield when I'm shooting black powder as a reduced recoil with my neck and shoulder problem. Plus it saves powder when all I'm doing is shooting at steel targets. Shoot 45 colts when I want or need full power loads.
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