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Re: Your ivory handled pistols and knives may soon be illegal
« Reply #20 on: March 19, 2014, 10:55:54 AM »
It's kinda rough going from being a Citizen to being a Subject.
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Re: Your ivory handled pistols and knives may soon be illegal
« Reply #21 on: March 19, 2014, 03:52:03 PM »
Shotgun,

Perhaps even more so when laws are enacted that can't be enforced? Just a thought?
Especially when "we" keep elect officials into office that pass such unenforceable laws.
This was my reason for my original posting on this subject.
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Re: Your ivory handled pistols and knives may soon be illegal
« Reply #22 on: March 22, 2014, 06:52:15 AM »
I got under the wire with a cheaply bought genuine ivory mahjongg set. Most are fake, these are real ivory. A company in NY was selling these a couple years ago on ebay. It has increased in value. Now will be worth a bit less  :'(

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Re: Your ivory handled pistols and knives may soon be illegal
« Reply #23 on: March 22, 2014, 08:59:35 AM »
Do they just want the stuff that guns and knives are connected too? :(
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Re: Your ivory handled pistols and knives may soon be illegal
« Reply #24 on: March 22, 2014, 09:59:29 AM »
No, the proposed ban would cover everything with ivory, jewelry, chess sets, furniture inlays, artworks, musical instruments (piano keys), pool cues and cue balls.
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Re: Your ivory handled pistols and knives may soon be illegal
« Reply #26 on: March 22, 2014, 10:17:03 AM »
Time to do some checkin on the ole boy that wrote this up!
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Re: Your ivory handled pistols and knives may soon be illegal
« Reply #27 on: March 22, 2014, 06:39:31 PM »
"Suppose you were an idiot, and suppose you were a congressman - but, I repeat myself ...."   Mark Twain

'Grandfathering' of some ivory and not all is delayed confiscation. We have the same thing here with regard to pistols with 4" or less barrels. They went from 'restricted' to 'prohibited', "grandfathered" to current owners.

It is said that people get the government, army and police they deserve, but what did we do to bring this on ourselves? The moment this sort of crap came down, we should have put their feet to the fire.


Shotgun,

Perhaps even more so when laws are enacted that can't be enforced? Just a thought?
Especially when "we" keep elect officials into office that pass such unenforceable laws.
This was my reason for my original posting on this subject.
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I don't do these things to others and I require the same from them."  John Wayne

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Re: Your ivory handled pistols and knives may soon be illegal
« Reply #28 on: March 22, 2014, 06:54:39 PM »
This one was rushed through very quietly. If only the government could act so quickly on important issues instead of fixing problems that don't exist. This was pushed through by the US Fish & Wildlife Service even though their own report from September 2012 stated "we do not believe that there is a significant illegal ivory trade into this country.”
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Re: Your ivory handled pistols and knives may soon be illegal
« Reply #29 on: March 22, 2014, 08:38:57 PM »
So stop all those so called scientists from digging up mammoth ivory in the frozen tundras,take away thier funding!
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Re: Your ivory handled pistols and knives may soon be illegal
« Reply #30 on: March 22, 2014, 08:42:05 PM »
So what is the problem with digging up mammoth ivory. No animals are being harmed.
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Re: Your ivory handled pistols and knives may soon be illegal
« Reply #31 on: March 22, 2014, 08:59:41 PM »
Not a thing~ ;) Tick them off and they will scream louder and get the thing thrown out~ :) Some politician has a buddy that makes good fuax ivory probably,that attorny needs to be run out of town!!!
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Re: Your ivory handled pistols and knives may soon be illegal
« Reply #33 on: March 22, 2014, 10:49:20 PM »
I did write to my "representative", senators and to Mr. Cade London, Special Assistant, USFWS International Affairs, twice. Here is the shocking surprise. I never got a response from anyone. Not even a BS form letter.
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Re: Your ivory handled pistols and knives may soon be illegal
« Reply #34 on: March 23, 2014, 12:45:18 AM »
Shotgun,

Perhaps even more so when laws are enacted that can't be enforced? Just a thought?
Especially when "we" keep elect officials into office that pass such unenforceable laws.
This was my reason for my original posting on this subject.
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Actually, this is not a law, nor is it a bill.  As Bowiemaker has consistently stated throughout this thread, it is a proposed rule.  No vote was required, no legislation was passed and signed into law.  Remember that whole "we can't wait for Congress to act" thing?  And "I have a phone and a pen"?  Well this is the result of those methods. 
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When you're running with them in your hand..."  -- Slim Dusty

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Re: Your ivory handled pistols and knives may soon be illegal
« Reply #35 on: March 23, 2014, 10:30:45 AM »
It's called "rule by fiat", the stuff of autocracies.

Better watch it or we'll get our pee-pees slapped for being too "political" .... :>)
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Re: Your ivory handled pistols and knives may soon be illegal
« Reply #36 on: March 23, 2014, 10:31:04 AM »
Then we do not have to comply,they can hack his phone and change it! A president can not make a law~And with all that is going on he actually takes time to mess with something that was working fine??? As far as i am concerned he is in the District of Columbia and any of them can take a hike! What about the attorny that wrote it..I'm sending the next letter to Puttin,maybe he will do something!!
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Re: Your ivory handled pistols and knives may soon be illegal
« Reply #37 on: March 23, 2014, 10:32:23 AM »
It's called "rule by fiat", the stuff of autocracies.

Better watch it or we'll get our pee-pees slapped for being too "political" .... :>)

I can take it,i got it whacked when i was a baby in training  ;D BALIF!!!!
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Re: Your ivory handled pistols and knives may soon be illegal
« Reply #38 on: March 23, 2014, 10:38:21 AM »
I did write to my "representative", senators and to Mr. Cade London, Special Assistant, USFWS International Affairs, twice. Here is the shocking surprise. I never got a response from anyone. Not even a BS form letter.


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Re: Your ivory handled pistols and knives may soon be illegal
« Reply #39 on: March 23, 2014, 10:52:33 AM »
Ok,

I have been thinking of this for a few days now, and it just is not getting any easier to swallow. I don't even know what to say.

I look at our society and see a nation, not ruled by laws, but instead ruled by "regulation". We, the citizenry no longer have a say in our government, but instead are at the whim of whatever bureaucrat decides their ideas are right and we must all live with them.

There are several people complaining about "income inequality" but what is not discussed is "power inequality". We live in a nation where one person can decide how we live our lives. That sounds much more like a monarchy than a constitutional republic. Did we do this to ourselves?

The better question is ... what do we do about it? There are so many battles to fight on so many fronts with this form of government, that it is becoming impossible to defend ourselves from the raging culture war that I don't even know what to do. I have written local officials (live in Illinois so that is pretty useless). I am thinking of moving my company and the business I manage out of the state of Illinois to somewhere else and am looking at that now, but as for the nation I was born to, aside from the power of my vote, it is getting hard to win this defensive battle for the soul of the American people.

I want to fight, but with so many battles, it is hard to not get hit when being fired upon from all sides.

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