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Loading S&W .44 American
« on: November 06, 2013, 02:45:39 AM »

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Re: Loading S&W .44 American
« Reply #1 on: November 06, 2013, 06:15:16 PM »
Thanks for posting that.

Now if I find an American I can afford, I know how to make ammo for it.
That’s bad business! How long do you think I’d stay in operation if it cost me money every time I pulled a job? If he’d pay me that much to stop robbing him, I’d stop robbing him.

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Re: Loading S&W .44 American
« Reply #2 on: November 07, 2013, 04:34:49 AM »
Here's a rare one:  an early "oil hole" American!! Arrow thru for photos:


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Re: Loading S&W .44 American
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Re: Loading S&W .44 American
« Reply #3 on: November 07, 2013, 10:36:21 AM »
Thanks for posting that.

Now if I find an American I can afford, I know how to make ammo for it.

You can use the same procedure to load for that very rare .44 Henry cf.
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Re: Loading S&W .44 American
« Reply #4 on: November 09, 2013, 01:38:24 PM »
FCK and Sir Charles,

I have made .44 S&W American ammo using this same method as in this video.
The one thing to remember is that S&W rounds were set up for round nosed bullet being intended for a revolver and not for the mag tube fed repeater like the Henry/'66.
However, if you use a comparable flat nosed bullet like Winchester used shortly after they introduced the Henry's, the ammunition should be interchangeable in the Smith and the Henry/1866 Winchester cf.
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Re: Loading S&W .44 American
« Reply #5 on: November 10, 2013, 06:20:38 AM »
do any of you know how to modify the bullet puller?
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Re: Loading S&W .44 American
« Reply #6 on: November 10, 2013, 07:34:04 AM »
litl rooster,

What bullets are you wishing to pull?
I like to use a kinetic bullet puller myself on modern ammo I wish to unload.
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Re: Loading S&W .44 American
« Reply #7 on: November 10, 2013, 09:42:36 AM »
litl rooster,

What bullets are you wishing to pull?
I like to use a kinetic bullet puller myself on modern ammo I wish to unload.
Blair

He said in the video he crimped the Heeled Bullet with his modified bullet puller.

I have worn out the kinetic puller's ;D pulling bullets..
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Re: Loading S&W .44 American
« Reply #8 on: November 10, 2013, 12:12:15 PM »
litl rooster,

Thank you. Now I understand the reason for your question.
I had a vision of pulling bullets in .44 American to reload with flat nose.

I, in all honesty, have not even tried to keep with the changes in heel bullet reloading equipment. There maybe diagrams available for some of these, that others will be able you offer?
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Re: Loading S&W .44 American
« Reply #9 on: November 10, 2013, 01:08:48 PM »
I am guessing that the bullet puller he means is the collet type, like the RCBS.  I hadn't thought about that, but might investigate.  I have a modified LEE collet die for the .41 Long Colt, and that works jes fine. I did find a plier type wire stripper that might do in a "pinch"!
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Re: Loading S&W .44 American
« Reply #10 on: November 10, 2013, 01:47:07 PM »
Sir Charles,

The wirer striper type plier thingy is the kind of thing I had in minds eye.
I had considered it years ago, but just never got involved enough with doing large numbers of heel based bullets to fallow through with it. And there were so many possible variations.
Thanks for the potential info!
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Re: Loading S&W .44 American
« Reply #11 on: November 11, 2013, 04:48:49 PM »
I am guessing that the bullet puller he means is the collet type, like the RCBS.  I hadn't thought about that, but might investigate.  I have a modified LEE collet die for the .41 Long Colt, and that works jes fine. I did find a plier type wire stripper that might do in a "pinch"!

The lady at lee told me couple years ago those were no longer available. I use the wire strippers and also

In Mr. Potterfield's video he says he uses a modified Hornaday Bullet Puller to crimp the heeled round
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