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Horsey Jacknife?
« on: May 25, 2013, 10:11:26 PM »
Hi,

For reenacting, I thought a jack-nife with a special 'pic' blade for removing pebbles from under horses hooves might be one of those things, as Tsalgidave says, that might be found in the hands of a minor or anyone traveling by horseback .... what do you think?

http://www.caseknifeoutlet.com/proddetail.cfm?ses=7F94EAB5DEA4B280

I sent a note to Big T about it ....
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Re: Horsey Jacknife?
« Reply #1 on: May 25, 2013, 10:42:53 PM »
Doesn't "look" period to me. As for practicality, from my memory of messing with horses(mostly during my prior marriage) Some of the gunk you scrape out of a horses' hoove can be a bit smelly, I probably wouldn't want to stick it back in my pocket after cleaning hooves, then later use the same knife to peel an apple, or something like that.
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Re: Horsey Jacknife?
« Reply #2 on: May 25, 2013, 11:27:31 PM »
Hi,

Point Taken ...then what did you use to clan between the hoof and the horse=shoe?

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Re: Horsey Jacknife?
« Reply #3 on: May 26, 2013, 06:46:14 AM »
Here you go Wadd, these are from the 1880's 
Photos are from the net... I don't own them

However I do own a Collins Horseman in this design with Rosewood scales
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Re: Horsey Jacknife?
« Reply #4 on: May 26, 2013, 06:52:24 AM »
I have one of these as well
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Re: Horsey Jacknife?
« Reply #5 on: May 26, 2013, 09:15:15 AM »
Well, I'll be darned! I guess it is a possible period correct item! The ones we used were sort of a bent piece of small rebar, looked like this:

http://www.bing.com/shopping/hoof-pick/p/75F80BD6AF18DFF15003?q=hoof+pick&lpf=0&lpq=hoof%2bpick&FORM=CMSMEE

Kept it hanging on a nail on the side of the shed, right beside the curry-comb.

Of course, the period correct blacksmith made ones would look a lot better than our made in China model. I like the folding hammer-pick model Major showed.
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Re: Horsey Jacknife?
« Reply #6 on: May 26, 2013, 10:11:04 AM »
Not even remotely like an original knife.

What was/wasn't common are those shown by Major2 - but they were large knives - not built for the pocket.

These were carried in the saddlebags.

The folding hammer/hoofpick is nice - I found one years ago in a Cavalry camp near Brandy Station.

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Re: Horsey Jacknife?
« Reply #7 on: May 26, 2013, 10:57:03 AM »
Hi,

That is why I wanted an opinion ... I have tentatively bought this knife ... hey ! The price was right to carry in a pocket ... I was always taught that a folding knife should have two or more blades ... which this has ... and it has a kind of 'Old Time' look to it ...

http://www.kvsupply.com/5-blade-horsemans-knife-wcase/&refcode=google
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Re: Horsey Jacknife?
« Reply #8 on: May 26, 2013, 11:00:25 AM »
P.S.

Thanks to all you who gave input .... and if you ever run into a better horse knife for sale, let me know!

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Re: Horsey Jacknife?
« Reply #9 on: May 26, 2013, 12:21:38 PM »
Wadd

Those are made in India or Pakistan, they are  ::) well ... better than nothing ,   :-\ a little better that is.



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Re: Horsey Jacknife?
« Reply #10 on: May 26, 2013, 03:05:18 PM »
Major 2,

Thank you for the heads up ... since I don't own or use a horse, I will have it to show ... and I will always have my sheath knife on me for the real work ....

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Re: Horsey Jacknife?
« Reply #11 on: May 26, 2013, 03:55:19 PM »
Make sure ya get a dog to go with it.. :)
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Re: Horsey Jacknife?
« Reply #12 on: May 26, 2013, 05:34:12 PM »
Rick,

Good point ... a friend is trying to get me to get a Schipperke (I hope I spelled that right). Would that make a good 'horse dog'?

http://www.akc.org/breeds/schipperke/index.cfm

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Re: Horsey Jacknife?
« Reply #13 on: May 26, 2013, 08:13:44 PM »
I remember seeing pictures of an auction of some of Lt W.W. Cooke's weapons.  The auction was held in Alberta in April 1999 and included a Remington revolver and a pocket knife I remember as a farriers or horseman's knife.  I've just spent a couple of hours on the net trying to find the details without success.  As I recall the revolver was without provenance or markings but the knife was marked as the property of Cooke.  Cooke was Custer's adjutant and the one whom wrote the note to Benteen - bring packs.

If anyone can help find pictures or other details, you are welcome.

It seems to me that a serious horseman would have some method of clearing his mount's shod feet.  If a hoof pick was not an issue item, I'd be surprised if a knife or at least some makeshift tool would be found on his tack or his person.
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Re: Horsey Jacknife?
« Reply #14 on: May 26, 2013, 08:45:22 PM »
Quote from: WaddWatsonEllis on May 26, 2013, 05:34:12 PM
Rick,

Good point ... a friend is trying to get me to get a Schipperke (I hope I spelled that right). Would that make a good 'horse dog'?

http://www.akc.org/breeds/schipperke/index.cfm

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If he eats the shavings he's a good horse dog. ;)
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Re: Horsey Jacknife?
« Reply #15 on: May 27, 2013, 06:29:37 AM »
Saw this one just this morning

as listed...

W.H. MOZLEY, SHEFFIELD & HASTINGS...MULTI-PURPOSE POCKET KNIFE, 1860'S ERA
This solved all your problems, when stuck in the frontier , with limited carrying space. This knife, with ivory slabs, contained just about an answer to all possible problems. It has a  cork screw, small blade, cutting/chopping large blade, hoof pick, awl punch for leather, and a hidden sewing needle which inserts into the handle ( shown in image ). Even a screw driver tip at one end of the knife case !   PRICE $325
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Re: Horsey Jacknife?
« Reply #16 on: May 27, 2013, 09:46:39 AM »
The Swiss Army knife dates back to 1887...Here is the latest, "The Giant"...$1600.00..
I gonna need a bigger pocket...I don't see a hoof pick but I think you can build the horse with it

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Re: Horsey Jacknife?
« Reply #17 on: May 27, 2013, 10:17:09 AM »
Church & Son,

Too True ... LOL
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Re: Horsey Jacknife?
« Reply #18 on: May 27, 2013, 10:30:16 AM »
That looks like a Gun Click Rick Special, the only thing it is missing is a pocket watch pouch.
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Re: Horsey Jacknife?
« Reply #19 on: May 27, 2013, 01:21:59 PM »
 :D :D :D :D  Stay tuned ::) ;D
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