Author Topic: NCOWS Approved Gun Carts  (Read 32231 times)

Offline captmack

  • NCOWS Member
  • Top Active Citizen
  • ***
  • Posts: 271
  • "TX is neither southern nor western. TX is TX"
    • Capt Mack's You Tube page
  • Liked:
  • Likes Given: 0
NCOWS Approved Gun Carts
« on: August 21, 2012, 02:13:41 PM »
Howdy Pards,

I am looking to get a new guncart for NCOWS matches.  Who do y'all recommend?

Capt. Mack

 ;D
Capt Prather Scott "Mack" McLain
Senator
NCOWS Life Member #175

Offline Bugscuffle

  • Top Active Citizen
  • *
  • Posts: 1186
  • Liked:
  • Likes Given: 0
Re: NCOWS Approved Gun Carts
« Reply #1 on: August 21, 2012, 03:26:22 PM »
I'll have to folow this thread. I didn't think that there were any approved guncarts for NCOWS other than a scabbbard on a horse.
I will no longer respond to the rants of the small minded that want to sling mud rather than discuss in an adult manner.

Offline Okefinokee Outlaw

  • NCOWS Member
  • Top Active Citizen
  • ***
  • Posts: 348
  • Liked:
  • Likes Given: 0
Re: NCOWS Approved Gun Carts
« Reply #2 on: August 21, 2012, 03:58:58 PM »
I believe that although many NCOWS members do not use carts, they are still okay as long as constructed from period correct materials. A few in my posse still use them, and although it was like losing a pacifier, I have weaned myself off of the cart and use saddle bags.  We provide portable rifle racks at our matches.

Advertising

  • Guest
Re: NCOWS Approved Gun Carts
« Reply #3 on: Today at 03:33:20 PM »

Offline Pancho Peacemaker

  • NCOWS Texican Senator
  • NCOWS Member
  • Top Active Citizen
  • ***
  • Posts: 1560
  • NCOWS #3120, SASS #75813
    • Pancho's Videos
  • Liked:
  • Likes Given: 0
Re: NCOWS Approved Gun Carts
« Reply #3 on: August 21, 2012, 05:03:29 PM »
A cart should be wood, iron, and leather.  No plastics or aluminum.

The biggest issue is the wheel.  Finding good usable wheels can be hard.  Lots of the "wagon wheels" sold are decorative and won't hold up to use.

Look WAY down this page to the "Gun Carts and Wagon Wheel" section.  These are two vendors that sell wheels and carts which will fit your needs.

http://www.bergersharpshooters.com/Authenticity___Links.html

Also, our compadre "Mansfield Slim" is very handy in the wood shop.  He build his own PC gun cart and it's one of the nicest I've seen.  If you are good in a wood shop, he might still have the plans.

NRA - Life
NRA-ILA
TSRA - Life
S&W Collectors Association

 

"A vote is like a rifle: its usefulness depends upon the character of the user."
-T. Roosevelt (1858 - 1919)

Offline Pancho Peacemaker

  • NCOWS Texican Senator
  • NCOWS Member
  • Top Active Citizen
  • ***
  • Posts: 1560
  • NCOWS #3120, SASS #75813
    • Pancho's Videos
  • Liked:
  • Likes Given: 0
Re: NCOWS Approved Gun Carts
« Reply #4 on: August 21, 2012, 05:07:41 PM »
I'll have to folow this thread. I didn't think that there were any approved guncarts for NCOWS other than a scabbbard on a horse.

Some shooters still use them.  Some of the four gun shooters need them.  Some of the shooters who have mobility issues use them.  I still use mine when occasionally when Trevor shoots with me.  Hauling all our gear gets cumbersome sometimes.
NRA - Life
NRA-ILA
TSRA - Life
S&W Collectors Association

 

"A vote is like a rifle: its usefulness depends upon the character of the user."
-T. Roosevelt (1858 - 1919)

Offline River City John

  • NCOWS Senator
  • NCOWS Member
  • Top Active Citizen
  • ***
  • Posts: 4415
  • Mr. & Mrs. John Covert
  • NCOWS #: L-146
  • GAF #: 275
  • Liked:
  • Likes Given: 470
Re: NCOWS Approved Gun Carts
« Reply #5 on: August 21, 2012, 06:11:26 PM »
When I built my cart I just cut two solid round discs out of a 2 X 12. Worked fine, and as far as I know, are still doing service in Iowa somewhere when I donated it to NTR. Wooden body and the storage was a separate wood ammo box.

RCJ
"I was born by the river in a little tent, and just like the river I've been running ever since." - Sam Cooke
"He who will not look backward with reverence, will not look forward with hope." - Edmund Burke
". . .freedom is not everything or the only thing, perhaps we will put that discovery behind us and comprehend, before it's too late, that without freedom all else is nothing."- G. Warren Nutter
NCOWS #L146
GAF #275

Offline Tascosa Joe

  • NCOWS Member
  • Top Active Citizen
  • ***
  • Posts: 3047
  • SASS #: 2770
  • NCOWS #: L-168
  • Liked:
  • Likes Given: 11
Re: NCOWS Approved Gun Carts
« Reply #6 on: August 22, 2012, 12:01:39 PM »
CPT Mac:  What class do you shoot?  Working Cowboy does not allow the use of a Gun Cart.  Dr Bob built one out of an old trunk and a railroad freight dolly that was really cool.
NRA Life, TSRA Life, NCOWS  Life

Offline River City John

  • NCOWS Senator
  • NCOWS Member
  • Top Active Citizen
  • ***
  • Posts: 4415
  • Mr. & Mrs. John Covert
  • NCOWS #: L-146
  • GAF #: 275
  • Liked:
  • Likes Given: 470
Re: NCOWS Approved Gun Carts
« Reply #7 on: August 22, 2012, 04:16:02 PM »
I've always thought it odd that Working Cowboy disallows gun carts, period! But The Originals has written in that gun carts may be used if needed for health reasons.

I would guess that you'd be allowed the use of a gun cart in Working Cowboy for similar circumstances.



RCJ

"I was born by the river in a little tent, and just like the river I've been running ever since." - Sam Cooke
"He who will not look backward with reverence, will not look forward with hope." - Edmund Burke
". . .freedom is not everything or the only thing, perhaps we will put that discovery behind us and comprehend, before it's too late, that without freedom all else is nothing."- G. Warren Nutter
NCOWS #L146
GAF #275

Offline Major 2

  • "Still running against the wind"
  • Deputy Marshal
  • Top Active Citizen
  • *
  • Posts: 15872
  • NCOWS #: 3032
  • GAF #: 785
  • Liked:
  • Likes Given: 421
Re: NCOWS Approved Gun Carts
« Reply #8 on: August 22, 2012, 06:40:23 PM »
I've always thought it odd that Working Cowboy disallows gun carts, period! But The Originals has written in that gun carts may be used if needed for health reasons.

I would guess that you'd be allowed the use of a gun cart in Working Cowboy for similar circumstances.



RCJ




John, I'd have to ponder that .... WC rules does dis-allow gun carts ... however, we (NCOWS) do make accomodations for health & disabilities....
I would need to see the request 60 days out from a National event, and weigh in at that time on that request...
I'd think at the regional/district events, I'd confer with the hosting Judge toward any accomadations ruling.
And at the local level allow the host/Posse' Judge to preside.

I'll add, the cart in question should make every attempt to be of natural materials &/or be of some nature, something one might have
seen before 1898


when planets align...do the deal !

Offline Major 2

  • "Still running against the wind"
  • Deputy Marshal
  • Top Active Citizen
  • *
  • Posts: 15872
  • NCOWS #: 3032
  • GAF #: 785
  • Liked:
  • Likes Given: 421
Re: NCOWS Approved Gun Carts
« Reply #9 on: August 22, 2012, 07:03:42 PM »
Maybe something a simple as Travois

or Antique Wheel Barrow or Vendor Cart
when planets align...do the deal !

Offline Sir Charles deMouton-Black

  • THE ANCIENT SUBSTANCE ENDURES - ALL LESSER PROPELLANTS SHALL FIZZLE
  • NCOWS Member
  • Top Active Citizen
  • ***
  • Posts: 6201
  • Liked:
  • Likes Given: 405
Re: NCOWS Approved Gun Carts
« Reply #10 on: August 22, 2012, 07:15:14 PM »
I can't find the link, but Rattlesnake Jack has a scale model of a Red River cart.
NCOWS #1154, SCORRS, STORM, BROW, 1860 Henry, Dirty Rat 502, CHINOOK COUNTRY
THE SUBLYME & HOLY ORDER OF THE SOOT (SHOTS)
Those who are no longer ignorant of History may relive it,
without the Blood, Sweat, and Tears.
With apologies to George Santayana & W. S. Churchill

"As Mark Twain once put it, “History doesn’t repeat itself, but it does rhyme.”

Offline WaddWatsonEllis

  • Watt and Wadd Watson Ellis
  • Top Active Citizen
  • *
  • Posts: 3781
  • Howdy, Pardner! Sacramento, Ca here ....
  • Liked:
  • Likes Given: 0
Re: NCOWS Approved Gun Carts
« Reply #11 on: August 22, 2012, 11:22:46 PM »
I can't find the link, but Rattlesnake Jack has a scale model of a Red River cart.

Marshall,

At this time I have an assembled Toys R Us  Radio Flyer that I just have to reinforce and put a rifle rack on .... modeled after another cart ... right now photobucket.com is down, but I will try to put a pic on here as soon as I am able

BTW, IS this NCOWS approved? *S*
My moniker is my great grandfather's name. He served with the 2nd Florida Mounted Regiment in the Civil War. Afterward, he came home, packed his wife into a wagon, and was one of the first NorteAmericanos on the Frio River southwest of San Antonio ..... Kinda where present day Dilley is ...

"Courage is being scared to death and saddling up anyway." John Wayne
NCOWS #3403

Offline RattlesnakeJack

  • Deputy Marshal
  • Top Active Citizen
  • *
  • Posts: 1932
  • Liked:
  • Likes Given: 9
Re: NCOWS Approved Gun Carts
« Reply #12 on: August 22, 2012, 11:48:41 PM »
I can't find the link, but Rattlesnake Jack has a scale model of a Red River cart.

Approximately half scale .... rather cumbersome to transport (although the wheels do come off) but a real attention getter!



Rattlesnake Jack Robson, Scout, Rocky Mountain Rangers, North West Canada, 1885
Major John M. Robson, Royal Scots of Canada, 1883-1901
Sgt. John Robson, Queen's Own Rifles of Canada, 1885
Bvt. Col, Commanding International Dept. and Div.  of Canada, Grand Army of the Frontier

Offline Ottawa Creek Bill

  • Vietnam Vet 1966,67 First place, Southeast Asia Rifle Team, "66/67"
  • Top Active Citizen
  • *
  • Posts: 1970
  • OCB, A Newer, More Gentler NCOWS Member...........
  • Liked:
  • Likes Given: 0
Re: NCOWS Approved Gun Carts
« Reply #13 on: August 23, 2012, 12:33:02 AM »
Approximately half scale .... rather cumbersome to transport (although the wheels do come off) but a real attention getter!




Pretty Awesome!!

OCB
Vice Chairman American Indian Council of Indianapolis
Vice Chairman Inter tribal Council of Indiana
Member, Ottawa-Chippewa Band of Indians of Michigan
SASS # 2434
NCOWS # 2140
CMSA # 3119
NRA LIFER


Offline Ottawa Creek Bill

  • Vietnam Vet 1966,67 First place, Southeast Asia Rifle Team, "66/67"
  • Top Active Citizen
  • *
  • Posts: 1970
  • OCB, A Newer, More Gentler NCOWS Member...........
  • Liked:
  • Likes Given: 0
Re: NCOWS Approved Gun Carts
« Reply #14 on: August 23, 2012, 12:34:42 AM »
Marshall,

At this time I have an assembled Toys R Us  Radio Flyer that I just have to reinforce and put a rifle rack on .... modeled after another cart ... right now photobucket.com is down, but I will try to put a pic on here as soon as I am able

BTW, IS this NCOWS approved? *S*
Wadd.......I don't think that rubber treads or rubber tires are accepted......not sure but you'll have to ask Trap.

OCB
Vice Chairman American Indian Council of Indianapolis
Vice Chairman Inter tribal Council of Indiana
Member, Ottawa-Chippewa Band of Indians of Michigan
SASS # 2434
NCOWS # 2140
CMSA # 3119
NRA LIFER


Offline Major 2

  • "Still running against the wind"
  • Deputy Marshal
  • Top Active Citizen
  • *
  • Posts: 15872
  • NCOWS #: 3032
  • GAF #: 785
  • Liked:
  • Likes Given: 421
Re: NCOWS Approved Gun Carts
« Reply #15 on: August 23, 2012, 05:59:28 AM »
Pretty Awesome!!

OCB

Indeed . I've admired that before.... that's within the spirit

here a couple of period Childs wagons , that might give some inspration.
when planets align...do the deal !

Offline Tascosa Joe

  • NCOWS Member
  • Top Active Citizen
  • ***
  • Posts: 3047
  • SASS #: 2770
  • NCOWS #: L-168
  • Liked:
  • Likes Given: 11
Re: NCOWS Approved Gun Carts
« Reply #16 on: August 23, 2012, 03:45:12 PM »
Rattlesnake Jack:  Your cart is fantastic!
NRA Life, TSRA Life, NCOWS  Life

Offline Tascosa Joe

  • NCOWS Member
  • Top Active Citizen
  • ***
  • Posts: 3047
  • SASS #: 2770
  • NCOWS #: L-168
  • Liked:
  • Likes Given: 11
Re: NCOWS Approved Gun Carts
« Reply #17 on: August 23, 2012, 03:46:41 PM »
Marshall,

At this time I have an assembled Toys R Us  Radio Flyer that I just have to reinforce and put a rifle rack on .... modeled after another cart ... right now photobucket.com is down, but I will try to put a pic on here as soon as I am able

BTW, IS this NCOWS approved? *S*
Skip:  Your gun cart is not NCOWS approved, as OCB said the tires do not fit the time period.
T-Joe
NRA Life, TSRA Life, NCOWS  Life

Offline WaddWatsonEllis

  • Watt and Wadd Watson Ellis
  • Top Active Citizen
  • *
  • Posts: 3781
  • Howdy, Pardner! Sacramento, Ca here ....
  • Liked:
  • Likes Given: 0
Re: NCOWS Approved Gun Carts
« Reply #18 on: August 23, 2012, 04:56:38 PM »
Tascosa Joe,

I kinda figured as much ... so I have been kinda but not really looking for some old baby buggy or small wagon wheels ...something about an 8 inch diameter ... anyone have a  set of four just gathering dust?  IF so. PM me ...

My moniker is my great grandfather's name. He served with the 2nd Florida Mounted Regiment in the Civil War. Afterward, he came home, packed his wife into a wagon, and was one of the first NorteAmericanos on the Frio River southwest of San Antonio ..... Kinda where present day Dilley is ...

"Courage is being scared to death and saddling up anyway." John Wayne
NCOWS #3403

Offline Ottawa Creek Bill

  • Vietnam Vet 1966,67 First place, Southeast Asia Rifle Team, "66/67"
  • Top Active Citizen
  • *
  • Posts: 1970
  • OCB, A Newer, More Gentler NCOWS Member...........
  • Liked:
  • Likes Given: 0
Re: NCOWS Approved Gun Carts
« Reply #19 on: August 23, 2012, 08:34:47 PM »
Tascosa Joe,

I kinda figured as much ... so I have been kinda but not really looking for some old baby buggy or small wagon wheels ...something about an 8 inch diameter ... anyone have a  set of four just gathering dust?  IF so. PM me ...



Skip....If you have a Harbor Freight Tools in your area....they sell 36" cart wheels as decorator wheels that are sturdy enough for a gun cart....about $40.00 a set.....If they don't have them in stock they can order them for you.

Bill
Vice Chairman American Indian Council of Indianapolis
Vice Chairman Inter tribal Council of Indiana
Member, Ottawa-Chippewa Band of Indians of Michigan
SASS # 2434
NCOWS # 2140
CMSA # 3119
NRA LIFER


 

SMF spam blocked by CleanTalk

© 1995 - 2023 CAScity.com