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Re: 1945 Chevy 1.5 ton
« Reply #20 on: February 12, 2012, 01:30:01 PM »
went pretty goot if the linkage for the 3 on the tree didn't hang up between 1st and 2nd, a problem with those.  Fix was simple, shut it off, open the hood and put them in neutral and you were ready to go again.  
Ahh, the joys of 3-on-the-tree! My first vehicle was a '54 chevy that did that, replaced by a '65 that did the same thing. But on the '65 I discovered you could adjust some of the free play out of the shifter and help it. Wasn't in any manual, just sat there and studied on it some and saw where it would adjust. Drove that one about 15 years, untill one slippery morning on Hyway 42 going to work at about 4:30 AM. Rolled twice, had on a seatbelt, not a scratch on me, untill I started feeling around for my lost glasses, bound some broken glass first.

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Re: 1945 Chevy 1.5 ton (And other Stovebolts, Flatheads and Mutts, etc.)
« Reply #21 on: February 12, 2012, 10:58:01 PM »
Did that trick a zillion times with my 58 chevy wagon.  The aforementioned 190 D had 4 on the tree.  With good German Engineering, never had shifting problems.
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Re: 1945 Chevy 1.5 ton (And other Stovebolts, Flatheads and Mutts, etc.)
« Reply #22 on: February 13, 2012, 10:36:36 AM »
I love old American vehicles-made here with components that were made here. Nowadays, most everything's made overseas. Think I'll go to the big box store and buy some stuff that's made in china. Nice scenery on the way, a bunch of closed down factories.

In modern times, socialist countries that hate our way of life own the companies that produce our military's small arms. One of them even bought Winchester. A good fiction writer couldn't even make this crap up!

Antique vehicles are great. True works of art and a joy to own! ;)

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Re: Stovebolts, Flatheads and Mutts, old iron that moves you.
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Re: 1945 Chevy 1.5 ton (And other Stovebolts, Flatheads and Mutts, etc.)
« Reply #23 on: February 13, 2012, 10:56:38 AM »
I'm going to hate having to retire "The General"  doubt I'll find another decent one with an in-line 6.  Manual trasmissions and in-line 6's belong in pick-ups.  There is not reason they couldn't still build them, the Aussies took that Ford one out to about 350 CID, put that in a 3/4 or 1 ton, put the old cast iron 4 speed in with the non-sycro 1st and toss a two speed under the back end with maybe 4.11 and 2.71 and you'd really have something.  Leave off the fancy trim inside and out and make a real pick-up.  They could still make the cars with pick-up boxes that are too small, but I'd like to have one like I want and more important, need.
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Re: 1945 Chevy 1.5 ton (And other Stovebolts, Flatheads and Mutts, etc.)
« Reply #24 on: February 13, 2012, 11:04:13 AM »
Charles Isaac:

You are correct, Sir.  US military issued weapons that are not made here.  Our current M-16A2 & M-4 are made by FN (not a bad outfit, or sure).  But are not made here, I reckon.  
My big issue is with the Chinese made shi++ >>> Their M-1887 & M-1897 shotguns.  I do not sell them at my store.  I also try to never buy Chinese made stuff at all.  That is damned hard to do, these days.
We are getting Chinese built ordnace fired at us every day.  I won't support their economy.

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Re: 1945 Chevy 1.5 ton (And other Stovebolts, Flatheads and Mutts, etc.)
« Reply #25 on: February 13, 2012, 11:08:22 AM »
Delmonico:

I have a good old '65 F100 long-wide box with 6 cyl & 4 speed.  If you need it, I can let you have it at a decent price.  American Iron for sure.

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Re: 1945 Chevy 1.5 ton (And other Stovebolts, Flatheads and Mutts, etc.)
« Reply #26 on: February 13, 2012, 03:03:51 PM »
42 years ago the same Manufactures were making the ones fired at us.  WHo was that idiot that says history repeates itself?
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Re: 1945 Chevy 1.5 ton (And other Stovebolts, Flatheads and Mutts, etc.)
« Reply #27 on: February 16, 2012, 10:21:57 AM »
Here's one for Books.  Same as mine, the brits specified the 2wd 30 cwt (30 hundred weight/3000 lbs/1.5 ton) Civilian spec truck, it was lighter and had better range than the 4wd Milspec "G" series Chevys. Lower profile as well, important in the flat desert.  Engine, transmission and axles the same. Right hand drive of course, they cut the cab off and bolted on high flotation tires and the specialty beds after offload in Cairo.
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Re: 1945 Chevy 1.5 ton (And other Stovebolts, Flatheads and Mutts, etc.)
« Reply #28 on: February 16, 2012, 11:02:57 AM »
Delmonico:

I have a good old '65 F100 long-wide box with 6 cyl & 4 speed.  If you need it, I can let you have it at a decent price.  American Iron for sure.

MG

I think this one will last a couple more years, to be truthful I don't think a mere F-100 would work, my extra heavy sprung F-100 is starting to lack a bit. 
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Re: 1945 Chevy 1.5 ton (And other Stovebolts, Flatheads and Mutts, etc.)
« Reply #29 on: February 16, 2012, 11:05:25 AM »
Since flatheads have been added I'm going to toss this in:



A Funk 8 Conversion on an 8N.  They are just way cool and were fairly easy for Funk to do since the 8N engine is just half a V8.
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Re: 1945 Chevy 1.5 ton (And other Stovebolts, Flatheads and Mutts, etc.)
« Reply #30 on: February 16, 2012, 01:48:42 PM »
My Dad was a self-taught mechanic who learned on Model Ts and Model As. He opened a garage and wrecking yard when he returned home after WW2 ended. He was service manager at our Ford dealership from 53 to 57. We had a lot of Flatheads back then. They were always Dad's favorite. That picture of the Flathead in a Ford tractor is great.
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Re: 1945 Chevy 1.5 ton (And other Stovebolts, Flatheads and Mutts, etc.)
« Reply #32 on: February 16, 2012, 08:36:25 PM »
My first "car" when I was 14  was a '61 f-100 short unibody w/ 223 cu in 114hp 6cyl and the 4 speed.  plenty of low end and just enough top end to surprise folks.  Drove that truck to my 20th high school reunion.  It was sold shortly after to someone who could give it the tlc it deserved.  But today I still drive a '96 f150 with the big inline (the last of them I think).  Even the same color as my first one ;D.  I think my truck is the only one in AZ with honest winter rust.
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Re: 1945 Chevy 1.5 ton (And other Stovebolts, Flatheads and Mutts, etc.)
« Reply #33 on: February 16, 2012, 08:59:16 PM »
Back in about 1991 I was the Motor Transport Officer for Second Battalion, Ninth Marines, which was Special Operations Capable.  Part of the equipment for that capability were twelve heavily modified M151A1 jeeps, which by the time we got them from First Battalion, First Marines, were pretty much junk.  When my Staff Sergeant went to get them, I think about three made it under their own power, seven were towed in, and two caught fire on the way.  I had heard the standard rumors to the effect that the Marine Corps supposedly still had a bunch of jeeps in storage somewhere, so I called the logistics base in Albany, Georgia on the off chance it might be true.  When I asked them about getting new jeeps, much to my surprise, I was told I could certainly have twelve new jeeps if I would fill out the paperwork and properly dispose of the old ones.  I asked them how many they had, and they said about three hundred fifty of them.  About a month later, I had twelve brand spanking new M151A1 jeeps sitting in my motor pool at Camp Pendleton, looking as good as the day they left the factory in 1968!  Needless to say, the new ones were MUCH more reliable than the old ones, but regardless of the nostalgia factor, they were still a total piece of crap compared to a HUMVEE.  It was pretty cool to see brand new old stock vehicles like that, though.
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Re: 1945 Chevy 1.5 ton (And other Stovebolts, Flatheads and Mutts, etc.)
« Reply #34 on: February 23, 2012, 09:15:44 PM »
More pictures
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Re: 1945 Chevy 1.5 ton (And other Stovebolts, Flatheads and Mutts, etc.)
« Reply #35 on: February 24, 2012, 03:04:48 AM »
Below is my Friends 1971 M151A2 that we restored in 2005. He uses it for living history, parades, memorial services, military vehicle shows, and as a museum display.
This one came from the Canadian Gov. and was in Desert Tan, barely running but intact....
 
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Re: 1945 Chevy 1.5 ton (And other Stovebolts, Flatheads and Mutts, etc.)
« Reply #36 on: March 06, 2012, 10:19:19 PM »
Logged many of miles and darn near killed myself in one.
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Re: 1945 Chevy 1.5 ton (And other Stovebolts, Flatheads and Mutts, etc.)
« Reply #37 on: March 07, 2012, 03:41:18 PM »
(big SIGH!)

I have fond memories of my M151 at the USAARENBD at Ft. Knox.  It was a Ford, too Mustang Gregg.  It had 12 U-joints in all, and our mechanic told me that was a problem.

The one I had was VERY special.  It was an M151, not an A1 like the rest of the many hundreds at Ft. Knox.  It wore the same green paint scheme from the 1950s 'thru early 1970s = just like Major 2 posted, rather than the "new" Woodland Camouflage that they started using in the late 1970s.  The fenders were modified to fit over the 4 mud & snow (formerly civilian) tires that were tested on it before I got to the unit.  Since it had tires that were about 12" wide at the tread, the wheels were also civilian dish chrome wheels that were painted over with OD green paint to keep it looking "Army."  EVERY time we drove it heads would snap around to see this really cool vehicle.  I mentioned that it was "tested."  The mission of USAARENBD was to test equipment for the Army to see if things could be improved.  This particular wheel & tire test was nixed in favor of the then-still-in-design-stage HUMVEE which we received about 1984 or '85 in Germany.

If I can find my photo, I'll post it.
  This jeep LOOKED awesome!  It DID have issues, however.  Because the wheels were so offset compared to the original design, they had a lot of wheel bearing issues.  Also, the thing wasn't very stable over 40mph - and that was from real experience, NOT the "safety" speed limits imposed by Commanders and USAEUR.  Of course, we always stayed UNDER 40.   
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But it looked cool ...

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Re: 1945 Chevy 1.5 ton (And other Stovebolts, Flatheads and Mutts, etc.)
« Reply #38 on: March 07, 2012, 06:57:48 PM »
Yup, 12 U-joints. The ones from the transfer case to the differentials weren't much of a problem. But the ones from the differentials to the wheels were constantly going out. We kept exta assembled shafts in stock for quick repairs, some of the drivers actually carried an extra, and the neccesary 1/2 inch wrench to change it.

One time we had to go pick up a "new" M151, there were 100's of them in a giant parking lot. Once we found ours, of course, some of the drive shafts were gone. But since nobody was watching.........I think that may be where we got the supply of "extras".

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Re: 1945 Chevy 1.5 ton (And other Stovebolts, Flatheads and Mutts, etc.)
« Reply #39 on: March 07, 2012, 08:15:40 PM »
I can't believe you guys would take parts off of someone else's vehicles!!!  We were always "pure as the driven snow" in MY motor pool!!!
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