A warning to tourists to Canada!

[Sir Charles deMouton-Black]

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It irks me to have to say this, but Canada's border services don't have much respect for the second Amendment!  If you come to Canada packin', you risk being treated like this;

http://www.timescolonist.com/travel/tourists+busted+Winnebago+arsenal/5141382/story.html

[Professor Marvel]

Ah My Dear Sir Charles -

thank you for the warning, these days one must be educated for any border crossing .

the article is titled
"U.S. tourists busted for Winnebago gun arsenal"
and a snip reads:
"The Canada Border Service Agency said that when officers searched their 2008 Winnebago after they said they had nothing to declare, the officers found a derringer-type pistol, a cowboy-style revolver, three semi-automatic pistols and a shotgun."

lets see,
- derringer
- SAA revolver
- shotgun
- three semi-autos

sounds like what one person might carry for a Wild Bunch Shoot ...
hmmm  a one-person "arsenal"

yhs
prof marvel

[Buffalo Creek Law Dog]

That's the lefty media for you, to them, two guns are a cache, three or more guns is an arsenal, five or more guns in an armoury.

[Sir Charles deMouton-Black]

Deah Mahvellous;  Of coarse the border service is a typical law endorsement agency, and LUVS to use "hyper-bowl-ic" terminology.  I think that all LEOs must take a course in cop-speak.  I am surprised that they didn't count every round at least once to make these gentle retired folk appear criminal, if not merely warlike.

At least they didn't create any malapropisms.  The best one I read on a police report regretted the lack of collaborative evidence.

[Deadeye Don]

They were undeclared.  Seems undeclared firearms are illegal, but if you answer the officials honestly and declare them, they are ok to bring into the country???

If that is the case, then I guess the boys from Texas just should have been honest when asked the question, "do you have anything to declare?"

[St. George]

In 'cop-speak' and 'news-speak' - the reason that there are so many Pit Bulls out biting folks, is that it's more difficult to spell 'Belgian Malinois' or 'Hungarian Vizsla' or 'Labradoodle'...

Can't beat hyperbole when it comes to selling papers...

Vaya,

Scouts Out!

[Professor Marvel]

Deah Mahvellous;  Of coarse the border service is a typical law endorsement agency, and LUVS to use "hyper-bowl-ic" terminology.  I think that all LEOs must take a course in cop-speak.  I am surprised that they didn't count every round at least once to make these gentle retired folk appear criminal, if not merely warlike.

At least they didn't create any malapropisms.  The best one I read on a police report regretted the lack of collaborative evidence.

Ah My Dear Sir Charles -

( that is a grand rendition of Billy Crystal, BTW)

Regarding "collaborative evidence" - I am enthralled with the possibility that it may have been a Freudian Slip on Paper ... but I was always under the impression that such a collaboration was frowned upon by the D.A.

I do try to avoid malapropisms, but find that, if contracted,  they can often be cured with sufficient application of prescription pharmacuticals. Always contact your doctor if you begin seeing blue or have an event that lasts more than four hours....

They were undeclared.  Seems undeclared firearms are illegal, but if you answer the officials honestly and declare them, they are ok to bring into the country???

If that is the case, then I guess the boys from Texas just should have been honest when asked the question, "do you have anything to declare?"

In all seriousness, It is my understanding that in the past, at the Canadian Border one could declare them, have them documented and "sealed" in some manner by the Border Agents, and upon exit produce the paperwork for some sort of "handoff" to prove that one still had them in one's posession and that they were in fact still "sealed". However , my poor besotted grey cells are still living in the dim regions of the last Century thus I really have no idea what the demands of the powers are at this time.

Perhaps our Friends from the North can enlighten us?

However, at the more Southern Border of "the States", it seems that the Gendarmerie of that Failed State Fair Nation can be even more draconian.

In 'cop-speak' and 'news-speak' - the reason that there are so many Pit Bulls out biting folks, is that it's more difficult to spell 'Belgian Malinois' or 'Hungarian Vizsla' or 'Labradoodle'...

Can't beat hyperbole when it comes to selling papers...

Vaya,

Scouts Out!

Ah My Dear St. George -

I assisted in  a multiparty  "hyperbolic" trajectory event once. The active participant enjoyed the ride until he hit the ground :-(

somehow it did not seem to enhance the sale of the local tabloid, however photos did appear in the "local" section.

yhs
prof marvel

[Sir Charles deMouton-Black]

Those gentle Texans mentioned in this topic must not have been cascity.com members or visitors.  I had posted this link last year in CHINOOK COUNTRY.

Here is the official website with the rules that visitors to Canada must follow;

http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/information/visit/index-eng.htm

[Short Knife Johnson]

Like it or not fellows (and I tend to lean towards the NOT camp), it is the law of the land.  If you think your border ummm... security are above bringing the hammer of Thor down upon some unwitting Canucklehead who sallies forth across the border sans the requsite paperwork think agin.  One time crossing into the Montana Territories, a spent .22 RF deep in the grip of verdigris (pretty much green) was discovered whilst agents for the greater good ransacked my truck.  Did I get a scolding as if I was in possesion of WMD's.

I do think these border guards for the majority overestimate what they really are, and feel badly for the honest Americans who unwittingly bring a firearm across.  I know first hand how easily this can happen... one time I discovered my .30-30 tucked into the folding seats of my vehicle.  Had been there near a month.  So a handgun in the centre console is not a stretch.  Problem is, many LEO's see only black and white, and have their higher reasoning surgically removed with dull, rusty instruments leaving the scar tissue to put pressure on the logic centres of the brain.

That said, it's my understanding one can catch all sorts of hell simply crossing jurasdictional borders inside of your own nation.

[wildman1]

NY or MA being two I can think of right off Shortknife, probably worse penalties than going into Canada. WM

[w.b. masterson]

Went to Canada on a research trip several years ago.   Security was tight as the Democratic National Convention was being held close to the Canadian border.  That said, the RCMP (read that red coated mop pushers) at the border treated me quite rudely because I was from Texas.  Just couldn't understand why ANYONE would want a concealed handgun permit.  Asked me five times if I was sure I didn't have a weapon with me.  Finally, they said they were going to have run a security clearance before I could be admitted.  I told them,"Go ahead.  Don't you know that the FBI has already cleared me or I wouldn't have a concealed handgun permit?"  They looked kinda dumfounded about that.  Finally let me in.  I would have turned around and gone back if I hadn't driven 1300 miles to get there.

The US border patrol wasn't much better coming out.  I didn't think there would be any problem there, but I was wrong.  After I finally got across the checkpoint, I stopped the car, got out, & kissed the ground.

Passports?  We don't got no stinkin' passports.  We don't Need no stinkin' passports!

[DJ]

You shouldn't be too surprised at the different levels of freedom.  You just need to remember--in the 1700's our forefathers fought a war so we wouldn't have to be like England and Canada.