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« on: March 25, 2011, 11:13:15 am »


Hey all,

  While working in North Western Nevada, passing through a town of 193, name of Montello, I stopped by the general store. There was an old revolver, covered in dust laying in a case. I looked at it, and I bought it.
 
  Turned out it is a IL Pietta, 2001 copy of the 1858 New Remington. I took it to a gunsmith in Wells, Nv to have it cleaned and checked out. The smithy flipped over this gun. He loves it, very impressed with it.

  But I need help with some identity issues. It is a .36 cal Black Powder, and in the grip is stamped 'CAPT. JACK'... I have tried to research through Pietta, the Internet, etc., as to WHO Capt. Jack is/was, but too many results and nothing exclusive.

  Who was THE Capt. Jack, who used an 1858 New Remington???

  Thanks,
   Mississippi

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« Reply #1 on: March 25, 2011, 11:25:33 am »

I think you need to look to SASS's Alias list.

An awful lot of stuff gets personally marked with the shooter's alias, and it's likely that you've found one of them.

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« Reply #2 on: March 25, 2011, 11:30:58 am »

Yup normally I'd agree. However during the civil war there was supposedly a Capt. Jack notorious for his bloody tactics and his Remington. The gun smith said the same tho couldn't elaborate.
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« Reply #3 on: March 25, 2011, 11:51:40 am »

But it's an Italian copy built in 2001 so there's zero historical significance, and though no 'Captain Jack' from the American Civil War comes readily to mind - there's an Army marching cadence by that title, as well a a Billy Joel song - and even a spur-trigger 'suicide special' bore that name, as did Johnny Depp when he played 'Captain Jack Sparrow'...

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« Reply #4 on: March 25, 2011, 12:07:56 pm »

Agreed. It's a copy, no historical significance is absolutely correct. But it IS a special edition from the manufacturer paying homage to a Capt Jack.

There was a Modoc Indian called Capt Jack, some other notable Capt Jack's from the civil war era as well.

Just trying to LEARN about who he was and understand WHY the premier builder of replicas would make a gun in his honor.

Not trying to debate anything simply asking if anyone knows of this particular person and his exploits in the Civil War. That's it - nothing more nothing less.
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« Reply #5 on: March 25, 2011, 09:19:42 pm »

Believe me . . . I'm going to be absolutely NO HELP on this one . . . but, I couldn't resist!  When I hear the phrase "Captain Jack" . . . well . . . . er . . . uh . . . my mind instantly goes to "Jack Daniels" . . . . not that my thoughts have anything to do with the price of huckleberries on the south side of Main Street in Tucson.   Grin
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« Reply #6 on: March 25, 2011, 10:37:01 pm »

in the grip is stamped 'CAPT. JACK'
A picture might help.
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« Reply #7 on: March 25, 2011, 10:45:09 pm »

Since you found it in northern Nevada, it might well be the Modoc Indian Capt Jack.
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« Reply #8 on: March 26, 2011, 09:47:56 am »

Capt. Jack was a Modoc indian from North East California and was involved in the Modoc Wars or the Lava Bed War

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modoc_County,_California
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« Reply #9 on: March 26, 2011, 09:59:02 am »

I appreciate all the help - thanks everyone. But I think my Capt. Jack is the mythical Jack Daniels lol

But seriously, thanks for all the input!
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« Reply #10 on: March 28, 2011, 09:52:52 am »

"For nearly 20 years, Marble’s Sighting Department was headed by “The celebrated rifle shot” Captain Jack who installed new Marble’s sights and targeted them free, provided the customer supplied the ammunition (unused cartridges were returned).  For non Marble’s sighted guns, the Captain charged a $1.00 service fee.  Captain Jack O’Connell held the job from 1905 to 1909 until replaced by Captain Jack Hemple who stayed on until 1924."

(From Marble's published timeline)

Sounds like 'Captain Jack' was an assumed title for some...

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