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Re: IAC Reproduction Cowboy 1887 12 ga, 20" barrel, Lever action shotgun.
« Reply #20 on: April 26, 2012, 06:37:59 AM »
I recently took the plunge and bought one of the Chiappa '87 clones.

It is a much better shotgun than the IAC '87.

Better wood
Better metal finish
Better machining on the internals.
Much smoother action




are you going to do a side by side video and keep us informed?
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Re: IAC Reproduction Cowboy 1887 12 ga, 20" barrel, Lever action shotgun.
« Reply #21 on: April 26, 2012, 08:37:06 AM »
Hi Lil,

I hadn't planned to ... in fact, this is the only pic I have of my Model '87 in use ....



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Re: IAC Reproduction Cowboy 1887 12 ga, 20" barrel, Lever action shotgun.
« Reply #22 on: April 26, 2012, 12:27:22 PM »
I recently took the plunge and bought one of the Chiappa '87 clones.

It is a much better shotgun than the IAC '87.

Better wood
Better metal finish
Better machining on the internals.
Much smoother action



Just to keep things in perspective it is also three times the cost of a well-tuned IAC and weighs more.

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Re: IAC Reproduction Cowboy 1887 12 ga, 20" barrel, Lever action shotgun.
« Reply #23 on: April 26, 2012, 12:41:12 PM »
Just to keep things in perspective it is also three times the cost of a well-tuned IAC and weighs more.

I bought my "tuned" IAC from Coyote Cap back in '06.  It cost me around $650 then.  The same gun now days costs almost $1100 (see Cap's web site:  http://www.coyotecap.com/mod__87_wcse2.htm

I've heard rumor that the Chinese supply of these IAC '87s has dried up.  If true, no more Chinese '87's.

I bought the Chiappa "like-new" for under $1000.

I have not put them on scales, but if there is a weight difference, I cannot feel it in my hands.
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Re: IAC Reproduction Cowboy 1887 12 ga, 20" barrel, Lever action shotgun.
« Reply #24 on: June 11, 2012, 10:56:00 PM »
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Curious to know if anyone has tried to refinish the buttstock on the IAC '87s? The finish out of the box is, well, less than pleasing. Is it actually wood or some man made material? I have gotten pretty good at defarbing the wood on Italian 1861 Springfield musket/rifles for Civil War reenacting and wonder if these Chinese versions could made to look a bit better as well.

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Re: IAC Reproduction Cowboy 1887 12 ga, 20" barrel, Lever action shotgun.
« Reply #25 on: June 12, 2012, 08:47:34 AM »
Hi,

I got mine from Cap Coyote with lasering already done by his son ... and if you like it, he will take your gun and put lasering on it too ...

My point being that I believe my stock and fore-end was wood ... but that was several years ago; things may have changed.

Still, I cannot imagine any builder using wood 'products' to make a stock and fore-end ... sounds like heresy!





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Re: IAC Reproduction Cowboy 1887 12 ga, 20" barrel, Lever action shotgun.
« Reply #26 on: June 12, 2012, 10:30:07 AM »
Thank you for your insight. Dont want the lazering thing done nor do I want the 2 drop system installed. Local shop has a nearly new IAC 87-1 which (if I am reading all the posted infor correctly) can be a decent functional version of the 1887 although not as good looking as the Chiappa version. If I purchase this particular peice, the wood is rather dark odd colored tone and so, I would defarb the wood. The wood on your peice is nice looking and so, I am now confident that there is a decent look to be had with this shotgun.

If memory serves, some years back a pard of mine had a cheap version of a '92 rifle with an odd substance of buttstock. It was probably some type of wood but of a foreign species that I was not familar with. It was so dense that he couldnt get it refinished worth beans. Cant remember the maker nor importer and truth be told, not even sure if it was a '92. Time dulls the memory it seems.
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Re: IAC Reproduction Cowboy 1887 12 ga, 20" barrel, Lever action shotgun.
« Reply #27 on: June 12, 2012, 11:03:20 AM »
Harleydavis,

Don't know what to tell you  .... mine is a Norinco and is probably an entirely different species of wood ... but since Cap Coyote works on all types of Model 87s, there is a good chance he might have some information on the speicies that you are looking at ...I would give him an email just in case ... his website is:

http://www.coyotecap.com/

Another good source might be the actual company ... they might know the wood that they used for this run of shotguns ... so I would send them most of the serial # and see what they have to say:

http://www.chiappafirearms.com/

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Re: IAC Reproduction Cowboy 1887 12 ga, 20" barrel, Lever action shotgun.
« Reply #28 on: June 12, 2012, 12:08:41 PM »
I actually live just 40 miles from Cap's shop and can easily stop in I suppose. Since I went into CW reenacting 10yrs ago, I havent talked to him in the interim. Imagine I should just go to the source.
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