Flipped brim hats?

[1961MJS]

Flip It.bum bum bum bum bum,flip it good,bumbumbumbumbumbum,come on now flip it,you must flip it~~~~

And them boys are period correct.


Just not for the 1880's...   
Mike
Wichita KS

[GunClick Rick]

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[HogDoc Olliday]

Was there a practical reason why they were turned up in the front. Seems to me it would shield the sun from eyes better it left down.

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[ChuckBurrows]

Just a quick note re: period action pics - there are in fact several period action shots, all I know of are by Montana Photogrpher L. A. Huffman who began his career in 1879 - despite the limitations of the period equipment he in fact was able to overcome it - there is one series of a bronc buster (from 1904) and several others from even earlier.
His Saddling the Wild Horse is just one still from the bronc buster series http://azusapublishing.com/store/show/612

and some more from the same series
http://vintagecowboyboots.blogspot.com/2009/03/rodeo-roots-saddle-bronc-riding.html

This one is from 1890
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/__yL4yCa_9sY/SbMZESIukwI/AAAAAAAABmo/B7K3fzAKKqM/s400/huffman6.jpg

and several pages of Huffman prints
http://milescity.com/gallery/index.asp?gid=1

a book about Huffman
'Before Barbed Wire, L.A. Huffman, Photographer on Horseback', (p) 1956, Mark H. Brown and W.R. Felton.

[GunClick Rick]

Usually the hat would get so worn that it eventually got floppy,that's when they would put the lacing around the brim.1 soldie 1 hat,i pair shoes,etc. sorta like sheep gut,you can only use ot so long afer it gets limp.

[Yeso Bill]

I have wore hats on the range and seen other's hats that were so soft from use or age age that a good lope would turn the brim up or down.  A flip of the brim would get it out of your eyes and the wind will hold it there.  A good friend who worked for the El Yeso findly pinned his up and was teased about sunburning his nose.     An old remedy to restore stiffness was soaking the hat in sugar water but that really doesn't last too long.

No doubt hats were thrown back on the head for lighting for the photographs and I think the "side kick look" is pure Hollywood.  (I'd rather have my picture took wearing a new hat than a rag.)   

Bill

[HogDoc Olliday]

Yeso,
What's the "side kick look"?

[St. George]

The 'less than prosperous' look affected by every sidekick of the hero since the dawn of the Silver Screen.

Think 'Andy Devine' - paired up with just about everyone else.

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[Delmonico]

Those Huffman pictures with the action are not wet plate (glass plate) negatives but the newer dry plate type that were invented in the 1870's.  Both methods existed side by side for many years.  The glass plates made by the photographer cost less and gave many believe, better detail, but the more costly dry plates allowed them to stop action.  Both plates could be used in the same camera in most cases. 

[J.D. Yellowhammer]

I think a word of caution is needed here. I tried steaming my hat, but I burnt the hell outta my ears. And it was almost impossible to lean in under the exhaust hood on the stove.

[Delmonico]

I think a word of caution is needed here. I tried steaming my hat, but I burnt the hell outta my ears. And it was almost impossible to lean in under the exhaust hood on the stove.

JD sometimes you worry me, now be sure not to soak it in sugar water or the ants and bees will carry you off.

[J.D. Yellowhammer]

 

[GunClick Rick]

BY GOD THAT DOES IT! Shhhow "em" how RRRRoy

[Yeso Bill]

J.D.
    Don't say that.  Hat boxes are about the only thing left in the U.S. without a cautionary note or instructions.   

Bill
   

[J.D. Yellowhammer]

Good point. I'm tempted to remove my post so I don't give any politicians any ideas.  But I'll leave it as a warning to any other steamers here in CAS City.   

J.D.
    Don't say that.  Hat boxes are about the only thing left in the U.S. without a cautionary note or instructions.   

Bill
   

[1961MJS]

Hi

I've been at the Norman and Nobel Libraries doing some research and I came upon a couple of interesting pictures.  I have an article about Elias Whitcomb, who was a big deal in the Johnson County Range War.  I found the "after" picture in one of the Time-Life books.  The hats in TRUE WEST magazine are generally turned down, but the boys have them turned up in the Time Life Book.


Left side of the picture from True West Magazine March 2013



Left side of the picture from TimeLife.



Right side of the picture from True West Magazine March 2013



Right side of the picture from TimeLife.

Note that the hat brims are mostly down in the magazine version of the picture, but are up in the Western series pictures.

Good to have some proof.

[GunClick Rick]

Thems city slickers with the strieght hats,a hat got floppy from many miles of trail ridin,dippin in water,holdin whatever and or being tied for  hold on to your hats boys shes a storm a comin on!

I'm the hard case out here boy! WATCH THAT KNIFE!!

[WaddWatsonEllis]

Hi,

Not to denigrate Delmonico's knowledge of hats and shaping, but can I put a plug in for another of our members?

Gun Click Rick AKA Danger Ranger took an old salvaged silverbelly hat and turned it into a 'Boss Of The Plains' style hat for my reenacting ... for much less than a custom hat would have cost.

I have seen other hats he has done and am amazed at what he can do ...

So if you are  considering a new hat I would definitely give Gun Click Rick a PM ... I think you will be handsomely surprisedat both the hat and the qualiity!

[Delmonico]

I already told Rick if he wants a job I'll twist the bosses arm, Rick says it's too far to drive.

[WaddWatsonEllis]

Delmonico,

Even if it weren't coming from you, that is quite a complement, and more so from you!

TTFN,