I just came back from the gun show. It sucked...
The dealers were complaining that no one was buying, but they had crazy prices on everything so that sorta makes sense.
I saw one well used Stoeger (the super basic model) there for $300 bucks. When they can be had for 25 bucks more new, welll - that is a stupid price.
There were a few Stevens 311's there with $700+ prices on them, which is also a stupid price in my mind.
So, I swung by a local dealer, who just happens to sell Stoegers. He didn't have the model I wanted in stock (coach, SS receiver, blue barrel, single trigger, screw in chokes)), but he ordered it and it will be in by next Friday he thinks. $400 bucks ($470 MSRP) seemed like a good price.
Sir Charles, I reload 37mm stuff with tools you are talking about, and it works well. I made a custom primer punch and a seating punch on my wood lathe for doing it basically the way you are talking about. I seat the 209 primers in the 37 mm cases with a big C clamp, which just seems nicer than using a plastic hammer.
In this case however, I stumbled across the RCBS 12 gauge dies really cheap and the LEE "Classic Cast Press" was only 75 bucks brand new. With the two sets combined, I can reload paper, plastic, or brass, resize if needed, and do roll or star crimp, and I also got a quart of waterglass for doing the brass cases using the classic method.
I thought my 4 other presses needed another friend on the bench anyway