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"Mid range" CAS buffalo carbine
« on: May 26, 2010, 08:32:21 PM »
Looking for opinions:

Some of the CAS clubs I've been attending are hosting "Mid range" matches or "Cody Dixon" matches.  If you haven't shot these, it involves traditional rifle caliber long guns (45-70, etc...), usually shot off hand at modest distances (75 to 200 yards).

I find that most of your serious BPCR buffalo guns that weight 11 to 13 pounds are just not a good choice for this (like my Browning BPCR).  While those rifles are a joy over cross sticks or in position shooting, they just weigh to dang much to be off hand shooting all day.

I'm considering picking up a light weight rifle or carbine  that will be a little lighter and shorter for these mid range matches.  I'm thinking of a rifle that was designed for off-hand shooting.  It should have a barrel no longer than 22" and weigh no more than 8 pounds.

It'll need to be in 45-70, cause that is my poison of choice.  (And yes, I know the light rifle will kick more . . . that's what buttpads are for.)

Three I'm looking at:

1)  A Winchester/Miroku 1886 Extra Light carbine.

2)  A Pedersoli Sharps Carbine

3)  A Winchester/Miroku 1885 Hi Wall Trapper.

Any other thoughts about these three or perhaps another rifle I need to think about?
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Re: "Mid range" CAS buffalo carbine
« Reply #1 on: May 26, 2010, 08:46:24 PM »
1895 Marlin.

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Re: "Mid range" CAS buffalo carbine
« Reply #2 on: May 26, 2010, 09:48:49 PM »
I like the uberti 1885 configurations more than the recent mirokus I've seen. You might give them a look.

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Re: "Mid range" CAS buffalo carbine
« Reply #3 on: May 26, 2010, 10:35:58 PM »
C Sharps 1875, if you don't go for the Winchester hiwall.
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Re: "Mid range" CAS buffalo carbine
« Reply #4 on: May 26, 2010, 11:03:40 PM »
1895 Marlin.

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I agree with the Marlin 1895, from the specifications you set forth.

An 1876 in .45-75 might be a viable alternative.

In spite of what I wrote above, I like my Shiloh .45-70 and my 1885 High Walls much more...!

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Re: "Mid range" CAS buffalo carbine
« Reply #5 on: May 27, 2010, 10:52:26 AM »
Shiloh Sharps or Marlin 1895 cb 45-70. They are my favorites.

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Re: "Mid range" CAS buffalo carbine
« Reply #6 on: May 27, 2010, 11:43:44 AM »
Shiloh Sharps or Marlin 1895 cb 45-70. They are my favorites.

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How do the Shiloh Sharps compare with the Pedersoli Sharps in terms of quality? 

(I've handled and fired the Pedersoli & have no live fire experience with the Shiloh.)
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Re: "Mid range" CAS buffalo carbine
« Reply #7 on: May 28, 2010, 06:08:59 PM »
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A Remington Rolling Block Carbine .  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

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Re: "Mid range" CAS buffalo carbine
« Reply #8 on: May 29, 2010, 06:53:29 AM »
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A Remington Rolling Block Carbine .  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Rowdy,

I like that idea, however the only Rolling Block Carbine reproductions I've seen are in pistol calibers.  Does anyone make one in 45-70?  If so, will it handles modest smokeless loads?

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Re: "Mid range" CAS buffalo carbine
« Reply #10 on: May 29, 2010, 08:17:02 AM »
http://www.uberti.com/firearms/1871_rolling_block_hunter_carbine.php

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Thanks for the link.  That hunter carbine would fit the bill, but it is a scaled down "1/3" size action.  This would be similar to the "little Sharps" others are marketing.  While these are neat rifles, I like to keep my reproductions as period correct as possible.  I'd prefer to stick with an reproduction action that is true to the original design's size and dimensions.
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Re: "Mid range" CAS buffalo carbine
« Reply #11 on: May 29, 2010, 09:00:55 AM »
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Pedersoli offers a 28 inch round barrel on the Sporting RB . They offer it in 30-30 or 38-55 it is a full size rifle and weighs a little over 8 pounds . The 38-55 will be a real Sweetheart to shoot . I think we are luck people having all these choices , either choice will be fun to shoot .

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Re: "Mid range" CAS buffalo carbine
« Reply #12 on: June 01, 2010, 09:04:58 PM »
After much debate and searching, I found a nice Pedersoli Sharps.  It is fairly unique:  It's a '74 Sharps carbine, but has double set triggers, an MVA tang peep, and has a custom 22" heavy barrel by Gary Reeder.  It should be here in a few weeks. 

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Re: "Mid range" CAS buffalo carbine
« Reply #13 on: June 03, 2010, 12:30:51 PM »
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That's one fine lookin carbine .

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Re: "Mid range" CAS buffalo carbine
« Reply #14 on: June 05, 2010, 05:26:04 PM »
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How do the Shiloh Sharps compare with the Pedersoli Sharps in terms of quality?
About $1500+ more than the Pedersoli Sharps  ;)
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Re: "Mid range" CAS buffalo carbine
« Reply #15 on: June 08, 2010, 06:23:35 PM »
How do the Shiloh Sharps compare with the Pedersoli Sharps in terms of quality? 


I'd say from my own experience that ANY extra money spent on a Shiloh over a Pedersoli is money very well spent.  Those rifles are as extraordinary as the crew that builds them.

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Re: "Mid range" CAS buffalo carbine
« Reply #16 on: June 09, 2010, 01:34:17 AM »
I'd say from my own experience that ANY extra money spent on a Shiloh over a Pedersoli is money very well spent.  Those rifles are as extraordinary as the crew that builds them.

Which I why I bought a Shiloh rather than the Pedersoli... All of which means, extraordinary American workers are receiving their Salaries at Shiloh...!

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