Cimarron/Uberti having trouble?

[Deadeye Dick]

I don't know about Cimarron, but I do know Taylor's has great customer service. At least they have with me. I wouldn't hesitate to make a purchase from Taylor's.
There is a certain 1860 Henry Civil War Model that Cimarron offers and Taylor's doesn't that I would like to purchase, but am hesitant and probably will not because of Cimarron's customer service reputation.
Deadeye Dick

[Ten Wolves Fiveshooter]

I don't know about Cimarron, but I do know Taylor's has great customer service. At least they have with me. I wouldn't hesitate to make a purchase from Taylor's.
There is a certain 1860 Henry Civil War Model that Cimarron offers and Taylor's doesn't that I would like to purchase, but am hesitant and probably will not because of Cimarron's customer service reputation.
Deadeye Dick

   +1   Wise man

[Harley Starr]

I don't know about Cimarron, but I do know Taylor's has great customer service. At least they have with me. I wouldn't hesitate to make a purchase from Taylor's.
There is a certain 1860 Henry Civil War Model that Cimarron offers and Taylor's doesn't that I would like to purchase, but am hesitant and probably will not because of Cimarron's customer service reputation.
Deadeye Dick

+2 Deadeye

[Mogorilla]

Well, I too have heard the tales of Cimarron, as such I have steared clear of them.   I have had great luck with Dixie Gun Works, southern charm and hospitality at its best, Taylor's, and EMF.  EMF was many years ago and they don't have the selection they once did.   As to Dixie, they stand by everything they have sold to me, service and delivery were spot on.   Taylor's was the same.   My favorite Dixie story, I lived on a street named Magnolia, when buying things over the phone, I had to constantly spell it for people, so it became second nature.  Did that when ordering from Dixie, the lady stopped me, "Honey, down here we know how to spell Magnolia".   I laughed for a good minute as her souther accent made that statement sound pure perfection.   As to Uberti, I have an Uberti Henry rifle that is my pride and joy, but my pistols are all Pietta, I like to tinker but of the 9 Piettas I have only 1 had an issue that was quickly fixed by swapping out a spring.   

[Cliff Fendley]

Just heard today the Cimarron's are going to be Pietti's. Don't know when but that's the word.

[Abilene]

Just heard today the Cimarron's are going to be Pietti's. Don't know when but that's the word.

To repeat what I said in another thread:
Cimarron is adding a selection of Pietta sixguns, calling it their Frontier line.  They cost less than the Ubertis.  I would say they are similar to GWII's.  Their movie guns (Wyatt Earp, Holy Smoker, MWNN SAA, etc) except for the MWNN conversion will also be made with the Pietta as the base gun.  They are still carrying the Ubertis.

[Marshal Deadwood]

As far as Uberti's...........if I can't get it from Taylors, I won't get it at all. Esp not from that rude group in Texas.

[Virginia Gentleman]

I've bought different ones primarily Uberti  by the dozen, for film property departments.
 Probably had more Uberti products past through than the average guy in 30 odd years. 
I called once, and bought all the 51 Navies one Importer had in stock for "Into The West"

I can say this, 98% of the Products were just fine, maybe a Flaw in the finish in some perhaps.
A few might have, less than smooth action, but generally no major issues.
I can't really say that's LUCK

I can say, about 4 years ago, I did have some lest than satisfying experience with Cimarron Customer Service ( not a Uberti QC issue ) it was a delivery issue. I used Taylor's in that case ( and got the the Guns needed in time for my deadline )
I discussed the above problem with Charles Hanson of Cimarron at the 07 Shot Show. He was friendly but sadly I got the same
Run around again. The Customer Service had not been upgraded.
I can't say if it been upgraded these days.

You might want to give the Ladies in Winchester, Va a call 

I own and shoot Uberti's Henry's , and Remington Forged Frame Conversion These were great right of the Box  (Taylor's)
 & a Uberti R&M Navy (Cimarron) I had Longhunter tweek in to my main match. 

The owners of Taylor's & Co I know and have purchased a few guns from and they really stand behind their product and have done everything in their power to keep me satisfied as a customer.  I had a not so great issure with Cimarron too and have now switched over completely to Taylor's & Co.  The fact they are here in Virginia sure doesn't hurt either!

[Ripon Kid]

I got a Cimarron 97 just after Christmas, Went and picked it up at my gun shop took it out of the box and it would not pump I tried the owner tried and one other guy that works there. Cleaned off all the shipping grease and it looks like someone took a grinder and vise gripes to all the sliders. We called Cimarron and they send it back for a replacement. 4 weeks latter I had another new gun. It looks a lot better but still very hard to operate. I have put a few boxes of shells thru it and not much improvement. I'm going to trade it in on a SXS. Made in the USA!!

[Popa Kapoff]

I have two Uberti 1875 Fronteirs one is smooth as glass and the other a little clunky on the trigger pull but I planned to have them slick up little anyway. The finsh was fine wood looked good but I made mt own grips any way. I have not delt with cimarron. but have to ask why buy a cimaroon when you get the same gun from uberti.

[Wild Horse Hans]

I got a 66 and 2 SAAs from Cimmaron 1 pistol was pretty smooth, the other not to bad. The 66 broke half way through the first event I went to. Rather than send it back I had Jimmy Spurs go through it as he lives about 5 miles from me. He said it was pretty bad inside. Lots of burrs and rough patches. The problem was when the trigger was squeezed the hammer only dropped to half cock. Rather that send it back and wait months I just had Jimmy fix it in a week.
Myocal dealer cut all ties with Cimmaron due to bad service. He now deals with Taylor. 

[rifle]

Since Italian guns can have quality control problems I'd advise to always read/research a businesses "return policy" before you buy thru the mail and even if you can hndle the gun at a store counter.
 Some businesses have a "you bougtht it and I have your money and I ain't gonna  give it back or take it back or exchange for a good one" policy. Kinda like fraud,
One thing I know is "Ruger" makes a good gun and has wonderful customer service.
I think one problem for companies selling a lot of Italian guns is that ,I guess, not all overseas companies take poor guns back so the companies here are stuck with the bad ones so some companies pass that onto the customer.
I think a person should try to buy from a place they can examine the gun before buying to at least eliminate some problems right at the store.
One thing I know is that iif a gun has "Cimarron" on it it's their gun and no matter who sells it it's under the Cimarrons return/exchange policy. Buffalo Arms is a good company but buying a Cimarron gun from them is the same as guying it right from Cimarron. They don't have an inventory but when a person orders a Cimarron they they order it from Cimarron at that time.

[1911S]

I was about to buy a Cimarron Model "P" today at my local gun store but after reading all the negative reviews regarding QC and poor customer service I have changed my mind.

I've got a New Ruger Vaquero stainless in .357 on order expected to arrive tomorrow.  I know it's not as authentic as the Cimarron but it has a good reputation for being rugged with great customer service.   I still want a 45LC in blue with case color, any suggestions would be much appreciated  .  Price range $600 to $1,000 +/-.

Thanks!

[HogDoc Olliday]

My wife owns a pair of Cimarron Lightnings. I have had them slicked up by a gunsmith and they work great. Before he did a job on them, they would hang up and were tight. Now, no issues. 

[Harley Starr]

My wife owns a pair of Cimarron Lightnings. I have had them slicked up by a gunsmith and they work great. Before he did a job on them, they would hang up and were tight. Now, no issues. 

That's good to hear HogDoc.

[Limpin' Leroy]

My Family has had mixed results w/Cimarron Arms. Six or seven years ago my Son used a pair of Lightnings for SASS. They were fine. He traded up to a pair of Uberti #3 S&W in ..44 Russian. My Daughter also has a pair of #3's in .44 Russian. All four guns have been good. I think the trigger pull in my Daughter's guns are heavy, but she is happy w/them. I had bought a 12.ga Bakiel SXS in 2001 for SASS work along w/one of my shooting pardners. The chambers on both shotguns were HORRIBLE. Each of us had 3-4 hours into trying to smooth them out. Then Frank Leman worked on mine some more! Them my right sear broke. Later my right trigger began to curve (bend) to the left. Frank repaired the sear and corrected the trigger. I sent the shotgun back asking for both triggers to be replaced. Cimarron staff refused to work on the gun told me that it "had been worked on" and was unsafe. I asked them to make it safe. They refused. I asked to purchase the triggers, they would not sell them to me. I ended up donating the gun to a fellow gun club member who's son need a project gun for his gun smithing (?) classes.
On the good side, their staff directed me to a fellow, (in Texas I believe), who was able to help me determine which cylinder went into which gun when I had both disassembled at the same time and mixed them up! The numbers on the cylinders were of no help.The key to that problem was a number written in pencil, on the inside of one of the grip panels!
Most of my telephone contact has been good. But I have had several where the peson on the other end became a little snippy and it was best to just hang up.

[Abilene]

Limpin' Leroy,
Cimarron has never carried Baikal shotguns.  Not sure what you had.  Did you buy from Texas Jacks?  They carry more than just Cimarron.

[Cliff Fendley]

The last three Cimarron model P's I've gotten are slick right out of the box.

I got a 66 a while back that was a mess, still had mill shavings all in side of it. Now after some cleaning and polishing it is pretty sweet rifle.

When I buy a new Italian gun I expect to have to do at least a minimum amount of work to get it satisfactory so if I don't it's just a bonus.

[joec]

The last three Cimarron model P's I've gotten are slick right out of the box.

I got a 66 a while back that was a mess, still had mill shavings all in side of it. Now after some cleaning and polishing it is pretty sweet rifle.

When I buy a new Italian gun I expect to have to do at least a minimum amount of work to get it satisfactory so if I don't it's just a bonus.

The Cimarron Model P I just got was Uberti and also slick out of the box. Now Cimarron will use either Pietti or Uberti depending on the gun and availability at the time. Now in my gun's case it looked like it had been gone through as it is sure smoother than my Uberti Cattleman was.

[Jimbo45]

I just picked up a new Uberti Stallion in 22LR yesterday and it has a few issues,  most importantly, the timing.  This cylinder stop appears to not be timed correctly.  Here is my thread with pics, and any help would be great: http://www.cascity.com/forumhall/index.php/topic,44771.0.html

[tzolreavren]

I purchased two cimarron big iron .45 LC revolvers with 4.75 inch barrels, and I can't believe the problem I've been having.  After firing about 50 rounds through the pair of pistols, the barrel literally flew off one of the guns and landed 2 feet in front of me. I inspected the frame and barrel, and being a machinist I discovered that the threads on the barrel measured 20 threads per inch while the frame measured 24 tpi.  I returned the defected pistol (other one ok so far) to my gun dealer, and after waiting four months they finally replaced it with a new one.  Thinking that the issue was resoved I took my new gun out for a test run.  After about 24 rounds of shooting I inspected the gun, and noticed that the barrel was loose.  I took it home and removed the barrel from the frame, which came apart very easily, and guess what?  Same problem.  The barrel threads measure 20 threads per inch, and the frame measures 24 threads per inch.  You can see in the frame where the threads cross cut through another thread.  I'm going to try and send both my pistols back.  I've looked around to see if others have problems like this, but so far i'm the unlucky one i guess.  AT this point I don't think I'll purchase a Cimarron ever again.  If anyone has heard of a problem like this, please let me know. 

[MJN77]

I have fourteen Uberti revolvers and two Uberti rifles bought new and used, from Navy Arms, Cimarron, Taylor's and Dixie gun works. The only problems I have had were front sights that were slightly canted to one side (1860 Henry, 1875 Remington), one of the Cimarron revolvers (model P) went out of time fairly quick and a Bisley from Dixie had a rough action.  All pretty minor problems. For the most part, Uberti guns are a good product for the money. But I think in the last few years QC has gone down.

[Gus Grizzle]

I just purchased a 1875 Outlaw 45LC/ACP 7 1/2 and it is right now back at Cimarron.
Noticed the firing pin retainer pin was gone after 6 rounds, they seem to be taking care of me pretty good.
They sent a call tag out right away and said they would make it right.
Got another ordered from Buffalo Arms so I will have a pair.

[Mean Bob Mean]

My first Uberti/Cimarron which I just purchased is a .44 Colt RM Army conversion.  It is perfect in fit, finish and function.  However, it had been sitting on a shelf for some time and was not recently produced.