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« on: December 16, 2009, 04:11:52 pm »


Does Wolff make a bolt/trigger replacement spring for the Uberti 1860 Army ? I've cruised Brownells till my eyes are sore,,,and can only find Wolffs for SAA's but not the percussion revolvers. I can find Uberti springs on Brownells for the 60' army...but alas, I'm not seeing Wolffs.
It is very,,no,,it is MOST likely that I'm just not SEEING it. I would really perfer a Wolff replacement if it can be had for the '60 uberti.

What say you all ? Does Brownells carry what I'm looking for,,,does Wolff make it ? Do you have a part/order number from Brownells or another source perhaps ?

Help would be much appreciated , gents

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« Reply #1 on: December 16, 2009, 05:45:15 pm »

MD,
They are the same spring.  Just get a quality one.  I have used both flat and wire springs, they both work fine.

Those springs will fit any of the medium frame single actions ('51, '61, '60, coverisons, '72 Open Tops, SAA or the many clones).

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« Reply #2 on: December 16, 2009, 05:49:45 pm »

Thank you. I wasnt sure the SAA spring would work in the '60Army percussion..but now that it will,,,I have a clear path ahead of me ...

appreciate it.

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« Reply #3 on: December 16, 2009, 09:28:44 pm »

Do note that Gunsprings.com (Wolff) lists the mainspring under Uberti Regulator.  The Colt spring is a bit too long.  The trigger/bolt springs are the same.  I feel the flat spring has a bit more "snap" to its action than the wire spring.  Also, if you are shooting the 1860 as a cap & ball, the Wolff light mainspring may not be reliable popping caps.  The Wolff spring works fine if you drop in a cartridge conversion.
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« Reply #4 on: December 16, 2009, 09:36:05 pm »

Flint,,I was only needing the bolt/trigger spring as mine broke. I do not wish to 'lighten' the mainspring for fear of what you mention,,,,fireing the caps.

You are saying you perfer the wolff flat bolt spring to the wire bolt spring ? Will the Wolff bolt spring for Uberti clones be the one I need ?

Thanks for the advice and comments fellas,

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« Reply #5 on: December 17, 2009, 04:44:11 am »

The longer finger on the SAA bolt spring is a tad long when used in the 1860.

I broke one in one of my Colt 2nd.Gen 1860 about 30 years a ago...I used a shortened Colt SAA spring , I broke it about 11 years ago and got a spring from Brownells ( may have been Wolff )
So far no problems...the other 30 year old Colt 2nd.Gen. still has the original spring.
Basically, Uberti's ,Colt assembled & finished the 2 Gen.s in the US and sold & letters them as Real Colts.
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« Reply #6 on: December 17, 2009, 08:43:42 pm »

    Major 2:
Check your history. 2nd generation Colt perc. revolvers were originally made of rough cast Italian parts supplied by Val Forgett and finished at the Colt factory. Later they were made under contract by Lou Imperato with Iver Johnson in their entirety. It's a lot more complicated than that, but that's the gist of it.

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« Reply #7 on: December 17, 2009, 08:46:30 pm »

I have used both the wire and the flat spring from Wolff, and the wire spring sounds and feels soft.  I prefer the Wolff or Colt springs over the Italian made springs, as they seem to last longer.  Italiand seem to have a problem heat treating springs....
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« Reply #8 on: December 18, 2009, 04:18:18 am »

   Major 2:
Check your history. 2nd generation Colt perc. revolvers were originally made of rough cast Italian parts supplied by Val Forgett and finished at the Colt factory. Later they were made under contract by Lou Imperato with Iver Johnson in their entirety. It's a lot more complicated than that, but that's the gist of it.

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Is that NOT what I wrote ? .... I'm quite familiar with the late Val Forgett's involvement as well as Lou Imperato and the Iver Johnson connection. The Second gen Colt's were Basically, Uberti's ,Colt assembled & finished the 2 Gen.s in the US and sold & letters them as Real Colts.
Colt will still letter them.

This is also how USFA (then USPFA ) got it's start...They imported Uberti's in the white and US finished them.
I own one of their Prototype Colt Conversions.
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« Reply #9 on: December 19, 2009, 11:51:17 pm »

I use & recommend the flat springs....I just prefer the action, Thay are "snappier".
Suggest investing in a few spares when ordering.

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« Reply #10 on: January 16, 2010, 10:26:36 am »

I know many people like wire springs.

But many reputable gunsmiths belive them to be a major safety issue in SAA's (all Single Actions).
Read Jerry Kuhnhausen's gunsmithing manual on the SAA. Jerry knows what he's talking about
Quite a few guns have been blown up due to the bolt spring bounceing and allowing the cylinder to throw by.
It is very important that the bolt locks solid. Tune the trigger spring for trigger weight.
For Safeties sake stick with flat springs!

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