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« on: December 01, 2009, 09:20:16 pm »


HAS ANYONE SHOT 45ACP AMMO OUT OF THE R&D CONVERSION CYLINDER MADE FOR THE 1858 REMINGTON PIETTA 44 BP CONVERTED TO 45LC
OR IS THIS EVEN POSSIBLE
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« Reply #1 on: December 01, 2009, 11:41:18 pm »

I don't think it will work as the .45ACP headspaces on the case mouth, and the .45LC on the case head.  If you tried loading the .45ACP in the .45LC R&D cylinder, the ACP rounds will drop some distance into the chamber.  You'll need something to poke them out.  Perhaps you could try a Kirst Cartridge Konverter in .45ACP.  I converted one of my Pietta 58's to .44Remington, my other Pietta '58 uses Kirst's .44Remington cylinder with their old model plain back plate.  No ejecting rod needed, I swap cylinders ala "Pale Rider".  Lots possibilities, too little money...  Good shootin'!
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« Reply #2 on: December 02, 2009, 02:02:23 am »

I actually had a cylinder made for my Pietta New Army in .45acp.  I only shoot 21 grains of GOEX FFFg and a 155 or 200 grain bullet.  I was planning to have a .44Colt cylinder made for the original heeled bullet but the Smith lost interest.  His firing pins weren't as successful as I'd hoped, so I didn't push it.

I think most smiths would shy away for fear of some doofus putting IPSC "major" ammo through it.
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« Reply #3 on: December 02, 2009, 06:38:04 pm »

ADIRONDACK JACKS 45COWBOY SPECIAL?Huh?
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« Reply #4 on: December 02, 2009, 09:31:52 pm »

GCR;  You are right on!  Much the best solution if you have an R&D cylinder in .45Colt.

I wanted a .44 Colt, so the smith cut a star at the rear of the cylinder body for indexing rather than the pin used by R&D.  It allowed a .483 rim diameter but not enough for the .45 Colt rim.  As I have a lifetime supply of .45ACP brass, I asked him to make a separate cylinder body for that round.  The .44 Colt body never came off the mill!
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« Reply #5 on: December 02, 2009, 11:55:06 pm »

I'm gonna order some up from AJ,i haven't shot this one yet.

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« Reply #6 on: December 03, 2009, 12:01:38 am »

Folks, using the Cowboy .45 Special cases and DD's Big Lube bullets, these conversions are happy, happy.  I heard from Walt Kirst himself that the C45S is the best choice for these guns, as they are easier on the GUNS over time, and will make ya happier longer.
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« Reply #7 on: December 03, 2009, 12:49:35 am »

Thanks AJ,gonna get some in a few days.
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« Reply #8 on: December 04, 2009, 07:50:36 pm »

As far as shooting .44Remington or .44Colt heeled loads, Gad's Custom Cartridges loads for these two cartridges and they work well in my two Pietta Remington NMAs.  The former load uses a 248 grain heeled base (outside lubed) bullet pushed by your choice of smokeless, Goex black powder, Pyrodex P or Triple7 FFFg.  I prefer the last powder as my guns clean up pretty quickly with Ballistol "moose milk" (10:1 mixture of water to Ballistol) and I've had no problems with rust.  The link to his website is below.   Wink

http://www.gadcustomcartridges.com/

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« Reply #9 on: February 28, 2011, 01:19:13 pm »

I read some where someone hada cyclinder modified to use 45 acp with full or half moon clips. Where I read this I cann't remember or find agian.
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