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« on: April 17, 2005, 12:11:45 am »


Howdy folks,

Anybody out there got themselves one of them Beretta Stampedes yet?  I was lookin' at them today and wondered what the concensus was.  They looked and felt pretty good.

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« Reply #1 on: April 17, 2005, 12:32:41 am »

Yep got two of them one in 357 5.5 nickel plated and one in 45 LC, 4. 5/8 they feel great cannot tell you how they shoot have not had a chance to do so.
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« Reply #2 on: April 17, 2005, 03:34:45 pm »

Here is a pic of the two I just bought..





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« Reply #3 on: April 17, 2005, 05:22:37 pm »

Shaw is good lookin' irons!!!
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« Reply #4 on: April 17, 2005, 07:26:57 pm »

Friend of mine got one -- 45 Colt 7.5" ---  First CAS gun I ever shot POA outta the box !! 
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« Reply #5 on: April 18, 2005, 11:11:59 am »

Ain't they just Ubertis with transfer bars?  Huh

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« Reply #6 on: April 18, 2005, 04:42:22 pm »

I have owned a pair of 4 3/4" Stampedes for about 1600 Colt 45 rounds each. They just keep getting better! I shoot warthog loads of the holy black to point of aim (as best as I can) at SASS ranges. I have also found 4.8g of Clays to shoot well. They and my '58 Remmies are marked Uberti.
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« Reply #7 on: April 18, 2005, 05:47:28 pm »

Ain't they just Ubertis with transfer bars?  Huh

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Now that they may be, Slim.  But I just wanted to know if anyone had any e'sperience with them that might prove otherwise.  Am I going to have to get Annie over here with Elle cause youse actin' up???  Grin Grin Grin
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« Reply #8 on: April 19, 2005, 09:30:29 am »

Ain't they just Ubertis with transfer bars?  Huh

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Now that they may be, Slim.  But I just wanted to know if anyone had any e'sperience with them that might prove otherwise.  Am I going to have to get Annie over here with Elle cause youse actin' up???  Grin Grin Grin
Would I do that?  Cheesy

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« Reply #9 on: April 19, 2005, 07:16:08 pm »

Ain't they just Ubertis with transfer bars?  Huh

Slim

Now that they may be, Slim.  But I just wanted to know if anyone had any e'sperience with them that might prove otherwise.  Am I going to have to get Annie over here with Elle cause youse actin' up???  Grin Grin Grin
Would I do that?  Cheesy

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AAWWW Heck, Slim.  Mah 'pologies.  I don't know what came over me... of COURSE you wouldn't do something like that.  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #10 on: April 22, 2005, 11:54:33 am »

Howdy Trinity,

Although I'm fairly new to this board, I have posted and replied to posts about the Stampede's on the Wire.

My S/O bought a pair 2 1/2 years ago, 4 3/4" blued standard in 38/357. (his first pair he'd ordered were the deluxe models, which were stolen through the delivery service that the gun shop sent them with. But that's another story Roll Eyes).

Since he got his, five more Cowboys, myself included have bought them.  We love them Grin.
Out of the 10 pistols, only one of them had a slight rotation problem (one of mine) and it was fixed quickly by the Beretta warrantly gunsmith (also a Cowboy).

They are great outta the box, but we slicked 'em up, spring kits and lighter hammer pull. (ya I know..gamey, heh heh.) Thousands of rounds have been put through 'em and the preformance is great.
For the money, we feel they are the best Colt clone on the market.. repeat...for the money.

They fit my hands perfect and feel great. And they is sure pretty. Grin

There has been a lot of bashing of them on the Wire, mostly by a certain cowboy who doesn't own any and has never shot one. Unfortunately.

My S/O has broken an ejector rod, and replaced them on both of his guns with the stainless steel ER's from Brownell's. No matter which gun you buy, depending on how much you shoot, there will be something you have to fix, even his Rugers needed fixin' once in awhile.

Sorry this is such a long reply, but I hope you get a chance to shoot a Stampede to see for yourself what a great gun it is.

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« Reply #11 on: April 22, 2005, 04:52:08 pm »

Many thanks Josie for your response as well as the responses of the others.  They sure felt good that day in the shop.  Heck, they didn't feel like they would even need any slickin' work done!!  Grin Grin
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« Reply #12 on: June 02, 2005, 09:41:53 pm »

Almost two months have past and I figured that I'd thought enough about it.  I went ahead and bought the sheriffs model which I thought was pretty neat.  I am looking forward to shooting it.  Based on your comments, it will prove to be a good arn!  Grin

(Laredo_Crockett, have you gotten a chance to shoot yours yet??)


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« Reply #13 on: June 03, 2005, 11:02:57 am »

Nice, Trinity!  Grin

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« Reply #14 on: June 03, 2005, 08:24:18 pm »

Thankee Slim!  Grin
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« Reply #15 on: June 22, 2005, 06:20:03 pm »

I have a 5.5 inch in .357 that I wrote a gun test article for in the Sept-Oct 2004 issue of The Shootist. It had an excellent out of the box trigger, nice case hardenin', and point of impact was dead on for windage and about 2-3 inches above POA at 15 yards, pretty much perfect for CAS.  And yes, they are just Uberti's with a transfer bar, different case hardening process and Beretta type blue/black.  I think you will be well pleased, I'm sure disappointed they dropped the 44/40 though!
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« Reply #16 on: June 23, 2005, 12:42:57 am »

I'll have to be the dissenter in the bunch.  I bought one NIB, over-rotated to the point it wasn't useable, the dealer told me to contact Beretta USA, they (Beretta) were worthless.  Internal parts, springs, and the like were made too soft, and Beretta wouldn't let me buy them (replacement parts) until I could provide the exact part number, and to get that (schematic) cost some $40 to have a nearly unreadable copy sent to my gunsmith, and then it took them another 45 days to finally send the parts.  I was given the run around, promised that I'd be called back, this or that is being faxed over, it's in the mail or that there are so many failures of the hand spring/pawl etc.? that there isn't any parts and I should just take it back to where I bought it.
Anyway, mine was a lemon, but it seems that there aren't nearly as many now as there were 3 years or so back when they first came out

Trinity, I wish you luck in our sport and truly hope your new Stampedes function as great as they look.  Josie, I didn't mean to stir things up around here, although I did post my experience on the SASS Wire way back when it happened, and like I said, my experience with the Stampedes and Beretta service was over three years ago and when this model was new.  I think the place I bought it from was the first shop in my area to have them, and maybe if I had gone for the blued model over the nickel things would have been different and I'd have a brace of them now, but that wasn't the case and quite frankly the whole experience soured me on Beretta products overall.  Right now I've got two Remington 1858's and two 1875 models, with only one of the '58's being a Pietta and not Uberti.  All three Uberti's are used, the Pietta I just purchased through Cabelas, and I haven't had a chance to put a round through any of them.  Both '75's came with 3 sets of grips, the original wood, one hard rubber and one set made from simulated ivory that have been carved and would have looked great one the guns.

Unfortunately, the screw thread has pulled out of both pair of the simulated ivory with evidence that the previous owner had tried to use epoxy or JB weld in an attempt to get it ( the screw guide/anchor ) to stay in place.  My point is that since the extra grips were a bonus for buying them from a fellow cowboy, who up until last week I wouldn't know from Adam himself, I took a chance a chance that these used guns might be someone else's problems, and I put my faith and trust that these used shootin' irons will work and work well, at least for a reasonable amount of time.  While the grips are a dissappointment, I can't complain, and maybe the previous owner bought them new and had bad luck with the maker, the person who did the final fitting, or just got a set of lemons.  Now, if the new 1858 Remington made by Pietta has major problems, I might concievably conclude that this one gunmaker has too many problems with this model or overall and I won't buy from them again; I don't think that will be the case, but anything is possible.  My experience with the Stampede and Beretta service is based on what happened to me personally, and it did lead me to conclude that there was indeed a problem with the first production models, but this now seems to be fixed and the majority of folks are getting great results, as seen here.  I just haven't gotten over what happened to me, and I truly wish Trinity the best of luck.  I hope everyone understands why I felt I had to explain a little more about my opinion, and that I'm not trying to flame anyone for their advice or sharing results.
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« Reply #17 on: July 08, 2005, 04:19:20 pm »

I have had a matched pair since early last year.  They are 4.5 inch in 45 Colt, and they shot to the point of aim since they were out of the box.  They function just fine but they both would overt ravel form the bolt timing being a little late.  I returned them to the
Beretta Repair Service with instructions as to what I wanted to be done to them.  They came back repaired and have never done it again. 
The ones I have seen lately the timing issue has been addressed.  You can check this yourself, by watching when the bolt engages the cylinder.  My guess Beretta just couldn’t make a gun that scratched itself. 
There is one other issue, if the trigger is not fully released at the beginning of the cocking they will lock up.  This is a technique issue that can be overcome. 

I hope this has been informative, even if a little late. 

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« Reply #18 on: July 11, 2005, 09:18:50 am »

Like SFT, I am somewhat of a dissenter.  However, I must be fair also.  Our Stampedes were also early models (.38 cal., 5 1/2 inch barrels).  We had both over rotate.  It really sucked when they didn't do this at the smaller matches but started up at Hell On Wheels.

So we got home and contacted Beretta.  We sent the first one back at our expense and they did the repair and returned it at their expense.  It was WORSE.  The hammer pull was USELESS.  A weight lifter couldn't have pulled back that hammer.  Husband calls Beretta and blows a TUBE.  They said send them back.  Husband says with all the fees sending them back and forth, he could buy COLTS.  They pay for the return postage and reimburse us for the first time.

Gun is now fixed and works great.  Second gun started up, Beretta again pays all postage fees and fixes it.  Haven't had a problem since.

However, we shoot duelist.  We still don't trust them with the faster speed of traditional classes.

During this time when we were without the guns, we bought two Ruger Bisleys (also .38's, 5 1/2 inch barrels).  I like them BETTER than the Stampedes but will also shoot them if need be. 

I'm willing to bet that Beretta has changed some things in the newer models to address the problem. 
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« Reply #19 on: August 23, 2005, 10:16:54 am »

I read that 62% of Beretta is owned by Uberti. The Stampede is made by Uberti and has transfer bar. I believe one is paying extra for the Beretta symbol, so I bought the Uberti Cattleman. I owned the Baretta 9mm and it was a great pistol.

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« Reply #20 on: August 23, 2005, 10:39:45 am »

Beretta owns Uberti; bought the company three years ago.
Beretta also owns Benelli, Franchi and Stoeger.
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« Reply #21 on: August 23, 2005, 10:51:38 am »

Backing up Big Hex:

"Italian gunmaker Beretta Holding S.p.A. announced that it has acquired Uberti Aldo & Company. Uberti is located in the same town as Beretta, Gardone Val Trompia. Uberti is the leading manufacturer of replica revolvers and rifles sold through Cimarron Arms in the U.S.

Pietro Gussalli Beretta, managing director of Beretta, said, "The goal of the acquisition is to bring the Beretta Group to the forefront of the genuine U.S. tradition of cowboy shooting and other replica guns through a brand which is comparable to Beretta's high quality standards and prestige."

Beretta also owns Benelli outright and a piece of Browning.

In related news, Uberti recently unveiled a .454 Casull single-action, the first European chambering of the potent big bore revolver round..."

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« Reply #22 on: August 23, 2005, 11:36:34 am »

In related news, Uberti recently unveiled a .454 Casull single-action, the first European chambering of the potent big bore revolver round..."

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« Reply #23 on: August 23, 2005, 01:11:14 pm »

I read that 62% of Beretta is owned by Uberti. The Stampede is made by Uberti and has transfer bar. I believe one is paying extra for the Beretta symbol, so I bought the Uberti Cattleman. I owned the Baretta 9mm and it was a great pistol.

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Actually, Beretta owns Uberti.

12:00:36  Sorry 'bout that. I must have missed a page. And before I had  my coffee. Roll Eyes
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« Reply #24 on: August 23, 2005, 01:16:22 pm »

My previous post has the article of Beretta & Uberti, I got it here:

http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0BTT/is_148_24/ai_64565417

Also this from Gun Week:

Fit, Finish of Beretta Stampede Makes It Ideal Cowboy Gun

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When Beretta introduced the Stampede revolver, it was not their first revolver, but the only one likely to see use in America. Beretta flirted with a double-action revolver design much earlier, but I have never personally handled an example. The Stampede is another example of the Single Action Army (SAA) clone gun, designed to mimic the handling and feel of the Colt SAA.

Beretta made no bones about the ultimate sales target in their introduction of the Stampede. It is designed to offer an affordable version of the Colt SAA revolver, what we often call the Cowboy gun, to the many adherents of Cowboy Action shooting. They have succeeded admirably and with more than a little style. The Stampede is quite a revolver, certain to provide surprise to our friends who do not read Gun Week and keep up with current events.

The first time I beheld this beautifully finished revolver, with its charcoal blue finish, case-hardened receiver, and the unmistakable Beretta emblem on hard rubber grips on a single-action revolver, I was impressed. This was more of a shock to the learned eye than when I first beheld Smith & Wesson's variation on the 1911. After all, 1911 clones are numerous. So are SAA clones, but few indeed are of the high quality or fit and finish offered in the Stampede revolver.

As many of you know, Beretta acquired Uberti and a significant tightening of quality and the introduction of new models has followed. As for quality, I have examined Uberti revolvers as much as a decade ago that were of excellent quality in all particulars. On the other hand, I have seen brass frame guns even in Magnum calibers that were anything but first class revolvers.

I think the situation existed in that some importers wished to be able to sell single-action revolvers on the cheap while others wished to offer a well-finished, quality product. Uberti simply obliged either. That is only my opinion, but the revolvers were available in many finishes, and in numerous price ranges as well. EMF has long offered quality revolvers with good fit and finish, and we will cover several of those at a later date.

With Uberti under the Beretta umbrella, it was a simple matter for Beretta to introduce a single-action revolver. The Stampede differs from many single-action revolvers in that it features a transfer bar ignition similar to that found on the Ruger single-action revolver. There are variations found in the Uberti line that include a type with a simple hammer safety that blocks the hammer from falling when the gun is on half cock and others that require the gun to be carried with only five rounds in the cylinder for safety.

The Beretta system is the safest of the lot and the only version that I can recommend carrying fully loaded with six rounds. This alone makes for a good marketing and practical point in favor of the Beretta. I adhere to the old rule, five rounds in the cylinder, with all of my Colt-type revolvers, but the Ruger system is certainly easier on the shooter and more popular with corporate lawyers-and safety experts.

The Stampede is loaded in the following manner: the hammer is eased back to the half cock notch. Next, the loading gate is swung open. The cylinder is indexed to allow that a cartridge be loaded one at a time into each cylinder. When the cylinder is loaded with six rounds, the loading gate is closed and the hammer eased to the fully lowered position.

5-Round Carry
For those with other types of revolvers or who wish to carry five rounds in all their single-action revolvers, the following regimen is adhered to. The gun is placed at ready in the previously described fashion, but the loading sequence is as follows: load one, skip one, load four, cock the hammer and lower the hammer. The hammer will now be resting on an empty chamber. This is the manner in which I carry all of my single-action revolvers.

The Stampede is available in several popular calibers and barrel lengths. Soon, a bird's head version with a small grip suited for shooters with small hands will also be available. A 3-inch "Sheriff's Model" is in the works. For the purposes of my review, I used a .44-40-caliber Stampede with 4-3/4 inch barrel.

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