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[Charlie Bison]

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USFA has started their own forums for us USFA fans. Go to http://forum.usfirearms.com/ and sign up!!

[Deadeye Don]

Interesting.  I wonder if we ask specific questions on THAT forum, if we will get straight answers?   USFA staff sure havent been around CAS City recently.

[Charlie Bison]

Interesting.  I wonder if we ask specific questions on THAT forum, if we will get straight answers?   USFA staff sure havent been around CAS City recently.

Well so far they have someone on their named "Admin" who is answering questions.

[Capt. John Fitzgerald]

Charlie,
Thanks for the info.  Sure hope it doesn't draw people away from this site.
CJF

[RRio]

Charlie,
Thanks for the info.  Sure hope it doesn't draw people away from this site.
CJF

Look at it this way, USFA CSS was revived about 4 years ago, and given life back, right here at CAS City by Marshal Halloway. They can only join here.  I'm really not too worried about it, I think our loyal members will stick.

[Fox Creek Kid]

Excellent point, Rawhide Rio. Will someone on the new forum get an answer about the "new'" Remingtons? 

[Doc Sunrise]

My take on the new forum is a place where I can ask questions about USFA products more directly to USFA. 

Funny, I just asked a question about the Remingtons, lets see?

[Deadeye Don]

I joined the new forum and may go there occasionally.  CAS City is my home though.   I will watch the Remington question with interest.

[Scott Yancey]

I don't think this forum has anything to worry about. One need only stroll back through the pages to see how rich it is with experience and interaction that goes far beyond what any company site can manage. That said, I will join their forum as well, in hopes of getting some questions answered directly.

My suspicion is that they've been watching this forum very carefully, and this may be a positive response, by setting it up with someone from the company assigned to speak for them. They must know that rumours don't help them much.

just my two cents... cheers, all

[Charlie Bison]

I in no way intended this to be a different place for us to frequent by bringing it up. I will always refer here first and spend most of my forum time here, but I thought it was a great thing to bring up in the USFA forum.

[RRio]

I in no way intended this to be a different place for us to frequent by bringing it up. I will always refer here first and spend most of my forum time here, but I thought it was a great thing to bring up in the USFA forum.

Naw, naw, naw. Not a problem at all, Charlie. 

[Doc Sunrise]

I surely don't believe this forum has anything to worry about.  Talking to a company about availability of products is one thing, but talking to shooters with first hand experience of those products and how well they reacted in reality is something alltogether different, and far more important to the consumer and ultimately the producer.

[RRio]

I surely don't believe this forum has anything to worry about.  Talking to a company about availability of products is one thing, but talking to shooters with first hand experience of those products and how well they reacted in reality is something alltogether different, and far more important to the consumer and ultimately the producer.

I absolutely agree, Doc! 

[RRio]

After giving this more consideration, I guess it does make good business sense for USFA to have a more direct way of customers to ask questions of them without having to go through a third party. I forget sometimes, that not everybody knows about CAS City.

So with that, I wish their new forum all the luck and hopes that it improve their customer relations even more so than it is now, and keep the company viable.

 

[Deadeye Don]

Now if they would just answer the questions regarding the Remingtons.   

[Doc Sunrise]

"What Remingtons?"

On normal business it has been nice to use their forum for specific questions.  I will say they have been very good about answering all other questions and have been very informative.  The Remington issue must be a very complicated one for some reason that just can't be addressed.

[Scott Yancey]

Unfortunately, Deadeye, I think you got your answer. But from a Public Relations standpoint it leaves a lot to be desired. How about at least a "Thanks for your interest, but for internal reasons we can't comment at this time." It's a tad better than ignoring a customer outright. <shrug>

cheers all

[Capt. John Fitzgerald]

I have a sneaking suspicion that the Remington project is probably dead.  Questions about it have been asked several times here on this board and have always gone unanswered.  Same now seems to hold true with the USFA board as well. 
USFA, as firearms companies go, is a relatively small operation (something we often seem to forget).  In order to produce the Remingtons they would probably have to shut down SAA production, or at least part of it.  They only have so many CNC milling machines - something would have to give.
If USFA is unable to produce the Remington in-house, then why not return to their roots and import the necessary unfinished parts from Uberti?  USFA could then fit and finish them.  This is how Colt did it with their Black Powder and Signature Series percussion revolvers (Colt didn't even do the finishing work, other companies did it for them under contract).  By doing this, they would be able to fulfill any agreement they might have with Remington.  After all, these guns were to be marked and sold as Remingtons, not USFA's.  The only reason I had any interest in this project was because the barrel address was going to read "E. Remington & Sons."

[Deadeye Don]

"The only reason I had any interest in this project was because the barrel address was going to read "E. Remington & Sons."


Capt,   You hit the nail on the head there.  They would essentially be second generation Remingtons.   As to the milling machine issue,  I have heard they were trying to negotiate with another individual to purchase or use his machinery which was already used to mill parts for another past Remington project (guess which one) , but that the negotiations have not worked out.   This is just a rumor of course, but when USFA wont bother to answer questions with factual information, this is all we have left........rumors.

[Doc Sunrise]

I for one am not shutting the door on this just yet.  I think if USFA officially terminated this project for whatever reasoning they would lose their licensing agreement with Remington.  I think they are either working on the right pieces to come together or waiting until the very last moment before times up with Remington demanding "make some units or else" before you see any announcement one way or the other.  In the meantime there are plenty of other USFA models to fool around with.  With the economy being what it is and our lovely government trying to figure out how to screw things up even worse, we need to support our economy and USFA by purchasing some guns.  I for one am going to call Gary and place an order right away.  If down the road USFA sees its way to making some Remingtons, I'll line up for those as well.  I want one because of the anticipated quality of fit & finish from USFA, not so much for the address, although that is a plus for sure.

I am very pleased to see that some people do truly understand about 2nd Gen. Blackpowders as they are some wonderful pieces and an absolute joy to collect.  It is true that good old Sam was never afraid to obtain outside material that met with his specs and finish the final product in-house under his scrutiny.  Although Sam could get away with something like that in his time, Colt of the 70's & 80's received harsh criticism that was never countered by Colt's marketing team, and I think USFA would get a lashing that could very well poison their base products, and without exceptional marketing resources would poison their base product.  Good Lord I can hear the Coltaholics "I told you so" already.

[Appalachian Ed]

If quality, accuracy, and fit and finish are what you want. BUY A HEGE. They are 2nd to none.

I for one wanted a US produced Remington marked gun.

USFA has dropped the ball on the customer service side of this Remington deal in a huge way.

-Ed

[Marshal Deadwood]

I  went to that hedg site,,was in german I suppose,,and all I seen was some Uberti looking firearms.

Is there another site to them ? Are they manufactures of their own firearms or just sell Ubertis ?

Curious.

MD

[Appalachian Ed]

Hege makes the finest C&B in the world. The Hege Remington and the Feinwerkbau Rogers & Spencer are 2nd to NONE in accuracy. Both will run in the 2200.00 price range. Both are the standard in international BP competition. Hege and Uberti and not at all the same thing.


-Ed

[Doc Sunrise]

I was hoping that it remained understood I wanted US made as well.  I enjoy fine arms from many different countries, but my largest interest is with American arms involving the stories of American history.  I think at this stage of the game USFA would only be hurting the image they have created if they went in reverse to using Italian parts again.  I don't see the demand for high quality Remingtons being worth losing what reputation has been built.  Although the Remington thing may be a slight blemish, on the whole USFA has done a remarkable job in satisfying its original task, building great American made Single Actions with the kind of quality our great American heritage grew up on.  In their attemps to grow, not everything is going to work out as planned, and I am certainly not going to hold it against them when something doesn't.  USFA has my vote and support.  I have received excellent service from Gary Granger who has been very responsive to my inquiries, and very helpful in planning out my orders and requests.  To prove it and show my support, I just ordered new guns from USFA today.

[Deadeye Don]

Doc,   Did you happen to ask Gary about the Remingtons since you are clearly a great customer of his??