.31 Caliber Cap and Ball

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Fox Creek Kid:
Since the '49 is a five shooter would you not be able to load but 4 chambers? I don't think any posse is going to let you load ALL the chambers on a percussion gun at the loading table.

Itchy Triggerfinger:
Nope, jest the two rounds in a pocket pistol along with a LeMat.

I have heard of another venue club that let a guy cap all 10 on a LeMat, but I think the two extra shot thing would be safer.  I use a patched Minie Ball in the shotgun barrel.  It do make the target sang like a church bell.  :o

It's kind of a non issue with me at present cause I need to buy a pocket pistol (lack of coinage).  I sold my '49 cause I could not use it that often.  I actually have two LeMat's and am having a holster made presently.  Soooooooo short term I can do 5 and 5 using one of my other 44's or 8 and 2.  My twisted lizard self enjoys shooting 8 rounds from one pistol.

Using a 5 shot Paterson and there are other 5 shot .36 calibers that have a notch between cylinders, other venues, allow the use of a fully loaded gun.

I am not speedy quick.  I am thinking that someone who IS speedy quick might have an advantage of shooting two pocket pistols would have an advantage if they loaded all five.  Making a shooter cap on the clock with a 5 shot would take away this advantage.  OR make sure to add pistol knockdowns to any Regional "Brag about it 'cause I won event".  But then, a body could switch gunz . . .  :P

Pocket pistols might also be fun for the ladies to shoot . . .  We have to consider the ladies, cause I am the ladies man.

Whatever you guys feel like should be the rule will be fine with me.  I also should/will talk to my club leadership.

Shameless, the craven curr that shot me with a pocket pistol!

P.S. I been reading about the 'lil Remmie .31 being accurate and fun to shoot.  Soooo many guns, one can't have enough of them IF they do get trigger time.  I don't have the means to buy guns I am not going to shoot.


French Jack:
BRS-- The barrel length standard was only applied to "Pocket Pistols", in so far as that particular use in a stage requiring one.  There is no prohibition regarding the barrel length or usage of a small frame pistol as a main match pistol other than it be an approved firearm and caliber/cartridge.  The small frame percussion revolvers fit the bill in all particulars. 

They can also be loaded with 5 rounds if there is the option of placing the hammer down safely between chambers.  That is allowed per the Bylaws.

We simply  do not see this practiced much, for the most part because the small frame revolvers owned by most members are cartridge revolvers, and originals to boot, so are used sparingly to preserve them as much as possible.  With the replica small frame percussion revolvers, this is not a factor.  I would have to say, if you have them, use them.  The only caveat is they might not fare well with knockdown targets,  but otherwise, they will ring steel.

   Always thought 2 Lemats would be great for pistoleer. The Lemats and a rifle is all you would need.

River City John:

                         "POCKET PISTOL
Any approved hand gun with 4 inch barrel or shorter; any approved pistol caliber."

(We'd wrestled with the definition of a 'pocket pistol' for a number of years.)
Interesting that the above ad breaks the designations down by weight and caliber only,- the larger the caliber the heavier the firearm, presumably.
A Pocket Pistol was the .31 cal., any barrel length from 3"-6";
A Belt Pistol was .36 cal.;
A Holster Pistol was .44 cal.

Of course, this most likely may be a convention Mr. Colt used in sales literature to define the three calibers he offered.
But I can't help breathing a little sigh of longing for the simplicity of it. ;D 

The Main Match pistol caliber is not really specified. Only .22 cal. is the exception.  Any caliber or firearm design of the period is a given, so no reason to specifically site percussion pistol examples in the By-Laws. (Although, in other posts, the mention of brass-framed Remingtons and the .44 cal. Colt clone have raised some questions, as technically they are a modern creation. Closest to the actual history would be the Confederate brass-framed .36 cal. Griswold & Gunnison and the .36 cal. Spiller & Burr, both of which are offered as reproductions. But again, the By-Laws are specific- muzzle loading firearms are to be original or authentic reproductions of the period.)

As French Jack said, knockdown power would be the issue. That and the fact that Spotters even have trouble with scoring a .36 cal. percussion hit sometimes, through the smoke and the roar, due to lack of a powerful enough register on a fixed target. I've shot many matches using my .36's where I was glad we use the convention where if the Spotters don't all agree, then the majority opinion favors the shooter.  


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