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« Reply #1700 on: January 24, 2012, 05:32:22 pm »

I'll bet it was!!
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« Reply #1701 on: January 24, 2012, 06:01:49 pm »

SHB, We all need to remember that come November.
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« Reply #1702 on: January 25, 2012, 12:18:04 pm »

SHB, We all need to remember that come November.

Indeed!
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« Reply #1703 on: January 26, 2012, 03:57:30 pm »

The A-26 is rescheduled to arrive at Meacham Field this Sunday, if everything goes okay on the preflight. No time has been listed for the arrival.
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« Reply #1704 on: January 27, 2012, 09:43:47 am »

http://www.thefirearmsforum.com/showthread.php?t=52629

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Jeffi this is the link I shared with you earlier


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« Reply #1705 on: January 27, 2012, 01:13:17 pm »

That looks like Lawful Larry!
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« Reply #1706 on: January 27, 2012, 09:31:38 pm »

... Or unLawful Rooster!

Litl Roo, old buddy, yep - I went over that one for quite a while when you messaged it to me.  I really didn't realize that Air America had so many different types there then or that MANY planes at all!

I flew in a Flying Tigers Lines 747 on my trip to Saudi.  If I heard right, they are somewhat "Left Over" from that whole operation.  It seems that Flying Tigers got their first planes FROM the CIA back in the late 60s or early 70s.

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AKA - Jeff Bailey  A Three-Percenter & Sheepdog

Take me out to the black, tell 'em I aint comin' back. Burn the land; boil the sea: you can't take the sky from me. Have no place I must be; since I found Serenity:  you can't take the sky from me.
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« Reply #1707 on: January 28, 2012, 09:24:52 am »

That CIA A-26 that the private group is restoring is coming along. I haven't been over to Meacham field since Christmas. I still haven't heard anymore on the arrival at Meacham field of the CAF A-26.
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« Reply #1708 on: January 28, 2012, 12:17:13 pm »

Those few A-26s built (by ON-Mark? I think) are to me the ultimate version.  The tip tanks for extended range, up-graded engines,  the 8 -gun (Ma Deuce) nose, with 3 more M-2s inboard on each wing and more (3 I think) M-2s in the wings outboard of the engines, PLUS, 2 or 3 pods full of nastiness hanging under EACH of the wings on hardpoints!  Whew!

I sure wouldn't want to be on the receiving end of a strafing run from one of THOSE!

And speaking of wingloads of nastiness, Litl Rooster, those Tweets could sure pack a wallop, too!  The Air Force Museum in Dayton, Ohio has an A37 on display that has all the bells & whistles, and hangy-down goodies on it, plus the wing tip-tanks like you posted about.   That is one cool plane!  Did you ever manage to wrangle a ride?  Cessna sure made/makes a good product!  Most folks don't realize that the company that makes the rather common, high-wing private planes that are so commonly seen in the skies over America and elsewhere also made #1) a military jet trainer, and #2) that they modified those "cute, little pocket-sized" jet trainers into a pretty successful small, bad-a$$ed attack jet that could strafe, drop bombs and/or napalm, or shoot a high-performance jet out of the sky using Sidewinders!  That's a lot of muscle rolled up and put into a tiny package!
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Take me out to the black, tell 'em I aint comin' back. Burn the land; boil the sea: you can't take the sky from me. Have no place I must be; since I found Serenity:  you can't take the sky from me.
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« Reply #1709 on: January 28, 2012, 05:55:31 pm »

I will try and get a picture of both of the A-26s as soon as I can. The weather should be in the high 50s or low 60s for tomorrow. The temp. got up to 50 for a high today.
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« Reply #1710 on: January 29, 2012, 08:55:39 pm »

The A-26 made it to Fort Worth sometime after 3 pm this afternoon. I wasn't able to go over to greet it today. I plan on going to visit the Museum this week and check it out. I have not seen it in several years.
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« Reply #1711 on: February 08, 2012, 12:27:14 pm »

Be great if the folks in Dayton 'n Kitty Hawk could get tagether 'n work somethin' out. I'd give to a fund but that's kinda selfish. I'm about an hour 'n a half away from the memorial. Pass by it every time I shoot ECSASS.

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« Reply #1712 on: February 08, 2012, 12:54:33 pm »

That would be preferable to just destroying it Roll Eyes
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« Reply #1713 on: February 08, 2012, 06:43:56 pm »

I would like for the Smithsonian Museum to aquire the property and preserve it for everyone to see enjoy a historic part of aviation history.
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« Reply #1714 on: February 08, 2012, 11:33:22 pm »

I'm being a pessimist, I know, but it'll never happen.  Americans are forgetting more and more History, and caring less & less.

If that weren't true, we wouldn't have the political problems we do.  Most folks don't give a rat's a .. - uh, patootie about anything except what they can grab for themselves.

History be damned.  Honesty and right be damned.  Gimme freebies.


Yeh - the eternal optimist (Me) is sadly losing his good feelings. 


And not enough folks want to pay the kind of money involved to keep some "old property" in good shape just because the guys who owned it pioneered flight ... which most can't afford to do!

Or not ....


I wish I was wrong.


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« Reply #1715 on: February 09, 2012, 06:55:04 am »

True enough SHB.
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« Reply #1716 on: February 09, 2012, 09:07:14 am »

Most who know me have no doubt I'm an admirer of old ships. Washington, BB-56, broken up in '61. West Virginia, BB-48, broken up in '59. Both are legendary having unique, true stories of triumph in the Pacific, WWII. Both gone forever and few know of their rich history.

For the record, I'd like to see the shop preserved where it stands. Like Buck, taking it away and reassembling it in Kitty Hawk would be preferable to razing and hauling it away in dump trucks to a landfill somewhere. In my post, I did want it clear my thoughts on relocation are a bit less than objective.
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« Reply #1717 on: February 09, 2012, 11:12:38 am »

... Or unLawful Rooster!

Litl Roo, old buddy, yep - I went over that one for quite a while when you messaged it to me.  I really didn't realize that Air America had so many different types there then or that MANY planes at all!

I flew in a Flying Tigers Lines 747 on my trip to Saudi.  If I heard right, they are somewhat "Left Over" from that whole operation.  It seems that Flying Tigers got their first planes FROM the CIA back in the late 60s or early 70s.

At least that is the story I got.  I've been wrong before.

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« Reply #1718 on: February 09, 2012, 12:52:36 pm »

Another scrapped that sticks in my craw was the carrier Enterprise..... Undecided Angry
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« Reply #1719 on: February 09, 2012, 05:42:07 pm »

Unfortunately we can't saved them all. The CAF ran into that problem with no being able to save a lot of surplus WW2 aircraft.
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« Reply #1720 on: February 09, 2012, 09:30:30 pm »

The Wright's shop hit the local news tonight on Fox. Let's hope the national picks it up Roll Eyes
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« Reply #1721 on: February 10, 2012, 07:52:41 am »

The word's out. According to the AP one of the Wrights' shops was moved to a Ford museum in Michigan. Perhaps what's left of this one will be salvaged.
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« Reply #1722 on: February 10, 2012, 08:22:03 am »

I've see that one, Arcey. It's at the Henry Ford Museum in Detroit. Might be the one they did most of their airplane work in. Hope the national news outlets keep this one up front. Kitty Hawk would be a nice place for it Roll Eyes
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« Reply #1723 on: February 10, 2012, 09:59:11 am »

The Ford Museum in Dearborn, Michigan has all types of historical items, not just Ford items and not just automotive items. I spent about 4 hours in there and I know I didn't see it all.  It's sorta like Ford's answer to the Smithsonian. It is worth seeing if your're around Dearborn, which is Ford's headquarters.
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« Reply #1724 on: February 10, 2012, 11:51:09 am »

I've taken a "virtual" tour of the Henry Ford Museum, and it IS cool.  I hope to actually visit it someday.  I spent a few weeks in Warren, MI courtesy of the Army.  Warren is where the main (then) tank plant was.  (Now the M1 series of tanks is made in Lima, OH, but that's another story.)

During that TDY duty to the tank plant, I had high hopes of visiting Ford's museum, but we never had enough time to go there.  (TDY in MILSPEAK = Temporary Duty, iffn ya care to know and don't already)

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