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« Reply #1525 on: June 13, 2011, 01:12:05 pm »

Damn!

She was headed here to Indy.   Cry

The old Sweetie (and the skill of the pilot/crew) STILL managed to get her boys (and maybe girls) to ground safely.

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« Reply #1526 on: June 13, 2011, 05:29:51 pm »

I hope that Don and his group can aquire another B-17 somewhere and carry on the "Liberty Belle" legacy.
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« Reply #1527 on: June 13, 2011, 05:55:30 pm »

I hope that Don and his group can aquire another B-17 somewhere and carry on the "Liberty Belle" legacy.
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I hope they can continue also.    Glad they at least have a chance to do so.


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« Reply #1528 on: June 13, 2011, 06:15:04 pm »

I know that the Liberty Group is not finished and Don Brooks will do everything he can to aquire another B-17.  Congrats to the pilot on getting the plane down and everyone walking away.
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« Reply #1529 on: June 13, 2011, 09:08:41 pm »

In the end that is what counts.  I am glad the men are safe.
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« Reply #1530 on: June 14, 2011, 04:56:33 am »

We even got it reported over here in the U.K.   Sad end.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2003134/Vintage-B-17-Flying-Fortress-crashes-seven-people-aboard.html
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« Reply #1531 on: June 14, 2011, 05:42:51 am »

Some of those pics are better than what we've seen over here, Judge. From the first one, it appears that the initial problem was the left inboard engine. I noticed that the prop is feathered on that one, while the other three aren't Roll Eyes Cry
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« Reply #1532 on: June 16, 2011, 03:01:53 am »

Hopefully they can salvage the engines and some of the cockpit area. A replacement B-17 will be expensive if one is found to purchase.
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« Reply #1533 on: June 16, 2011, 09:58:33 am »

I can only imagine.   Doesn't it cost over a thou per hour just for fuel to fly one?

Or maybe more.  I wouldn't be surprised.
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« Reply #1534 on: June 16, 2011, 10:14:08 am »

I'm still marveling over the fact that everyone got out uninjured. 
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« Reply #1535 on: June 16, 2011, 10:35:01 am »

The pilot made a perfect landing in the field. The problem was that the field was wet and the fire equipment could not get out there to put the fire out.  The airplane could have been saved if the fire equipment could have got to the plane. They had to sit on the road and watch the plane burn.
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« Reply #1536 on: June 16, 2011, 11:43:05 am »

Kinda bugs me that the pilot didn't the same coverage as the miracle on the Hudson guy.  The story wasn't even on the news here and the best information I got came from England.  Just my opinion.
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« Reply #1537 on: June 16, 2011, 11:55:47 am »

He made a perfect gear down landing in that corn field.  The fire folks .just couldn't get out to the plane because of the wet field. I got a e-mail that "FIFI" is spending a few days over at our hangar in Fort Worth.  We should have a squadron meeting on Sat. at Addison. I'll get to see how the repairs on #1 engine on Ol'927 are going.
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« Reply #1538 on: June 16, 2011, 02:29:50 pm »

He made a perfect gear down landing in that corn field.  The fire folks .just couldn't get out to the plane because of the wet field. I got a e-mail that "FIFI" is spending a few days over at our hangar in Fort Worth.  We should have a squadron meeting on Sat. at Addison. I'll get to see how the repairs on #1 engine on Ol'927 are going.

I'm sure Diamond Lil will be just fine as long as someone calls by her proper name.  I did see the landing gear on the Belle set just right, the pilot was more than good. 
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« Reply #1539 on: June 16, 2011, 04:59:48 pm »

Did the engine fire bottles work?  Or was it simply more than they could handle?

Or were they even filled?

Such a waste of a beautiful aircraft.  Too bad about the firefighters inability to get close enough to help!!
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« Reply #1540 on: June 16, 2011, 07:13:48 pm »

I think that the fire bottles put out the fire in the engine, some of the flames spread to a wing which caught the wing tank on fire. The plane could have been saved if the fire engines could have gotten to the plane.
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« Reply #1541 on: June 17, 2011, 03:25:26 pm »

Leo, It has been confirmed that we will have a meeting over at Addison tomorrow.  I'll check on the engine repairs on the airplane formally known as "Diamond Lil".
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« Reply #1542 on: June 17, 2011, 03:45:18 pm »

Thanks, I called my wife Old 927 an it didn't go over too well.  I will look forward to the status of the plane.
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« Reply #1543 on: June 17, 2011, 04:33:14 pm »

Thanks, I called my wife Old 927 an it didn't go over too well.  I will look forward to the status of the plane.


I unnerstan' why she might not like being called OLD anything ... women are like that!

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(former) US Army M1 & M1A1 Tank Master Gunner
AKA - Jeff Bailey  A Three-Percenter & Sheepdog

Take me out to the black, tell 'em I aint comin' back. Burn the land; boil the sea: you can't take the sky from me. Have no place I must be; since I found Serenity:  you can't take the sky from me.
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« Reply #1544 on: June 17, 2011, 05:02:13 pm »

I heard that, Brother Jeff!
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« Reply #1545 on: June 17, 2011, 05:21:17 pm »

AMEN! Roll Eyes
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« Reply #1546 on: June 17, 2011, 07:31:20 pm »

The point is just that I call her Lil.  I'd still call her that even if she had major surgery and couldn't shoot no more.  I called her Old 927 just to see what would happen.  I is not smart. 
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« Reply #1547 on: June 17, 2011, 10:25:01 pm »

The point is just that I call her Lil.  I'd still call her that even if she had major surgery and couldn't shoot no more.  I called her Old 927 just to see what would happen.  I is not smart. 


Did she even KNOW that Old 927 is named Diamond Lil?

Flowers may help!

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*and a few other organizations*
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(former) US Army M1 & M1A1 Tank Master Gunner
AKA - Jeff Bailey  A Three-Percenter & Sheepdog

Take me out to the black, tell 'em I aint comin' back. Burn the land; boil the sea: you can't take the sky from me. Have no place I must be; since I found Serenity:  you can't take the sky from me.
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« Reply #1548 on: June 18, 2011, 12:26:54 am »


Did she even KNOW that Old 927 is named Diamond Lil?

Flowers may help!

 Wink

She knows.  Heck she lives with me.  That is why I give Pop a hard time when he calls her by that heathen name.
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« Reply #1549 on: June 18, 2011, 02:06:57 am »

She knows.  Heck she lives with me.  That is why I give Pop a hard time when he calls her by that heathen name.

Dear?

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*and a few other organizations*
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(former) US Army M1 & M1A1 Tank Master Gunner
AKA - Jeff Bailey  A Three-Percenter & Sheepdog

Take me out to the black, tell 'em I aint comin' back. Burn the land; boil the sea: you can't take the sky from me. Have no place I must be; since I found Serenity:  you can't take the sky from me.
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