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« on: April 12, 2008, 02:06:24 pm » |
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Anyone ever see or hear of anyone making a .45 Colt conversion for the Colt Dragoon series other than R&D? I wanted a Richards-Mason type full blown conversion done to my Uberti, 1st Model Dragoons, complete with loading gate and ejector assembly. |
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« Reply #1 on: April 12, 2008, 02:30:05 pm » |
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In McDowell's 'A Study of Colt Conversions and Other Percussion Revolvers' - he states that no 'factory' conversions took place.
'Private' conversions were done - but on a very limited scale - probably because there were so many Model 1860's and Model 1851's being converted, and thus readily available.
The Dragoon was never a belt revolver - usually being carried in pommel holsters, with the horse bearing their weight - so the demand was probably pretty light during the era - and likely today, as well.
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« Reply #2 on: April 13, 2008, 07:48:29 am » |
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At the last SASS convention, Walt Kirst had a prototype Walker conversion on display. He said to look for it sometime in early '08. He didn't mention a Dragoon conversion but I would guess one probably isn't far behind.
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« Reply #3 on: April 13, 2008, 08:46:58 pm » |
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Hey Grapeshot:
Was this what you had in mind?
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« Reply #4 on: April 13, 2008, 08:50:15 pm » |
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Cool pistolas Pete! Did you make them yourself, have some one do it, or are they original?
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« Reply #5 on: April 14, 2008, 05:35:38 am » |
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Hey Grapeshot:
Was this what you had in mind?
Yep! Those are exactly what I envisoned. Who does them and what do they cost? |
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« Reply #6 on: April 14, 2008, 06:52:58 am » |
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Those look darn close to the conversion Tuco used in the "Good, the Bad and the Ugly".
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« Reply #7 on: April 14, 2008, 08:56:21 am » |
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hey Grapeshot:
I actually converted them myself last winter. I am a machinist and decided that I needed something to do for awhile. I shortened the barrels to 6 inches. The conversion plate is attached by 2 screws to the revolver frame. I made the gates and plate on a cnc milling machine. If I can help in any way please let me know. I can furnish better pictures if you would them.
Actually, converting these revolvers is very easy (if you have the equipment).
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« Reply #8 on: April 14, 2008, 10:32:06 am » |
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I'd like to see pictures of them. I have a 2nd generation Colt 1861 Navy that I would like to have converted sometime, if I can find some one interested in doing the conversion. Did you sleeve the barrel on the 61 Navy?
Nice looking conversions. Good job!
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« Reply #9 on: April 14, 2008, 09:56:12 pm » |
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hey Grapeshot:
I actually converted them myself last winter. I am a machinist and decided that I needed something to do for awhile. I shortened the barrels to 6 inches. The conversion plate is attached by 2 screws to the revolver frame. I made the gates and plate on a cnc milling machine. If I can help in any way please let me know. I can furnish better pictures if you would them.
Actually, converting these revolvers is very easy (if you have the equipment).
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es. Please send pictures to: canoneer74@hotmail.com |
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« Reply #10 on: May 22, 2008, 08:37:20 am » |
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Here are more pictures of Pomona Pete's 3rd Model Dragoon conversions.
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« Reply #13 on: June 07, 2008, 11:26:53 am » |
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Just out of curiosity, did you remachine the ratchet teeth or? Just wondering how well the cut down ratchet teeth will hold up to use.
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« Reply #14 on: June 07, 2008, 07:04:56 pm » |
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will52100
I didn't remachine the ratchet at all. The cylinders on the dragoons and walkers have plenty of tooth left after you cut for the cartridge rim. I have shot both of mine a lot and there seems to be no noticable wear at all.
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« Reply #15 on: June 07, 2008, 08:20:04 pm » |
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Thanks, I'm planning on sending a dragoon to Walt Kirst to be converted, he's going to use the original cylinder also.
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« Reply #16 on: August 17, 2008, 01:38:16 am » |
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I just bought a Kirst Conversion with loading gate from River Junction. Looks great. also made from choice steel. I have stock for my dragoon and will hang it on my shoulder with a leather strap under my duster. That should roll some eyes. I can't wait to see how it prints at 50yards. Jim at River junction has a gunsmith on staff that will mill the loading port down for you. AT 40 I would have done the job myself but at 60 let someone else do it. Less aggravation.
The cost was 349.00
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« Reply #17 on: August 17, 2008, 03:35:29 pm » |
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Hey Pamona , those are beautiful guns , you shoudl be proud of yourself , a little at least, nice work, very handsome arms indeed  Alabama |
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« Reply #18 on: August 17, 2008, 07:06:17 pm » |
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Alabama: Thanks for the compliment. I really enjoy doing these conversions. I have access to the CNC machines and that is a big plus for this type of work. My plans are to start building two "60 Army "Long Cylinder" conversions here in a few days. Being a teacher, and school starting this week will definately cut into my gun building time. |
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« Reply #19 on: April 06, 2009, 05:27:42 pm » |
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« Reply #20 on: April 07, 2009, 08:21:53 am » |
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Tricky:
I have shot about everything in them. They do shoot best with the standard Winchester Cowboy loads. The accuracy varies a lot with the bullet weight. It seems to be much better with the 250.
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« Reply #21 on: April 07, 2009, 01:14:49 pm » |
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Thanks amigo I sent you a PM thanks for all the help again |
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