Beer Drinkin', Racin' 'n Football

[Arcey]

I'd explain the violation to you but you wouldn't understand it. I just sent you a quote on what the violation was on the 18 'n you still get it wrong. You're a waste of time.

I'm done with ya. In a final act of kindness, again, I'd suggest you check out Speed's racing forum. It's full of people as childish and without a clue as you are. As an added plus there are no crooked cops or liars like me over there.

[Leo Tanner]

I'm still tryin ta figure out what a front spoiler is.  I'm just stupid I guess.  They would look neat in a Buck Rodgers kind of way. 

[yeti76620]

I'm still tryin ta figure out what a front spoiler is.  I'm just stupid I guess.  They would look neat in a Buck Rodgers kind of way.  

The links below should help ya out there Mr. Tanner!    

BMW E82 Front Spoilers  
Improve the look and the aerodynamics of your BMW with one of our replacement front spoilers or bumpers. We carry a variety of OEM BMW front spoilers and aftermarket front spoilers including the M-Tech, ZHP, M3 CSL and M5 style bumpers to suit your needs.

http://www.turnermotorsport.com/BMW-E82/c-116-bmw-front-spoilers.aspx

http://www.caranddriver.com/news/car/10q3/lamborghini_sesto_elemento_concept-car_news/gallery/lamborghini_sesto_elemento_concept_hood_badge_and_front_spoiler_photo_28

http://www.otoyota.com/concept-car-2011-new-mercedes-slk-r172-accurian-rs-by-piecha-design/

http://www.imperial2009.com/2012-toyota-ft-86-sports-coupe/2012-toyota-scion-fr-s-concept-front-spoiler

[Leo Tanner]

Thanks.  Guess the term has changed meanin over the years.  Growin up it was just a wing ta keep the rear wheels planted on the ground like an aerolon. 

[yeti76620]

Thanks.  Guess the term has changed meanin over the years.  Growin up it was just a wing ta keep the rear wheels planted on the ground like an aerolon. 

I myself, like you, grew up just calling them "wings" because that was exactly what they are to do exactly what ya said they do.... push / stick that part of the vehicle down to the ground...         Somewheres along the line of time they've become "spoilers"....    

Now because these wings are on the front some folks want to force the term "splitter" down our throats 'cause NASCAR has coin'd ( I Think, maybe wrong) the term for the front wing....   

These wings / splitters / spoilers have been used on the front end of the "Open Wheel'rs" long before NASCAR took "stock" outa stock car!    

[Texas Lawdog]

It was good to see the Mustangs finish 1 and 2 at Michigan.  Michigan has been a good track for Fords.  Bill Elliot owned it in the 80s. I don't need no spoilers on my Trucks, I just put some dirt or sand in the bed for weight and downforce.

[yeti76620]

Race Day!!
TX Law Dawg call'd the Nationwide alright!  The "Cat in the Hat's" Horsey-Fords' ruled and what 'bout that Ricky Stenhouse Jr. kid....        I 'm sure he's the next dominate young star.... IMHO...   

I'm think'n this race is JR's today if he can out fuel-mileage the Cat in the Hat's Fords' as he done three years ago...     .....  Steve Latarte has been work'n the fuel game pretty good the last few races...    

GO 88!!

In "our" history RC I do not recall ever call'n ya a crooked cop liar; however, a "jackanape popinjay revenuer" yes, and that is just a pompous zealot...                    
Then I can not tell ya how little I care 'bout "acts of kindness" from a sarcastic buzzard being all done with me.... Do Not Let The Door Hit You In The A$$....            
Take Care of Yourself and God bless you...   ....     Yeti76620....{aka "Fan Boy"....  }

[Texas Lawdog]

June Bug is long overdue for a win and Michigan is the last place he won at. It's going to be interesting to see if the Fords can over their winning ways from yesterday.  The Kyle/Harvick fued gets most of the press. Nascar needs to put those two in a boxing ring and let them beat the crap out of each other till they get tired. Nascar needs to repeat this everytime they have a problem.  They will eventually get tired of having to do this every week or so.

[yeti76620]

June Bug is long overdue for a win and Michigan is the last place he won at. It's going to be interesting to see if the Fords can over their winning ways from yesterday.  The Kyle/Harvick fued gets most of the press. Nascar needs to put those two in a boxing ring and let them beat the crap out of each other till they get tired. Nascar needs to repeat this everytime they have a problem.  They will eventually get tired of having to do this every week or so.

I really do like yur think'n here TX LD....       ...  Problem here is that I believe that there will be too long of a line for the Toad to handle...           .... Besides that did not pan out very well for Richard...      

[Arcey]

What I meant about you inability to understand. I'm not going anywhere.

A splitter nor a spoiler can be accurately described as a wing. Neither has a potential for lift or flipped upside down downforce. They can be more accurately described as trim tabs.

A spoiler disturbs the air flow across the surface it's attached to. Hence the term 'spoiler. A splitter's purpose is to direct the air rather than disturb it. They're not the same thing, never have been, never will be.

[yeti76620]

A splitter nor a spoiler can be accurately described as a wing. Neither has a potential for lift or flipped upside down downforce. They can be more accurately described as trim tabs.

A spoiler disturbs the air flow across the surface it's attached to. Hence the term 'spoiler. A splitter's purpose is to direct the air rather than disturb it. They're not the same thing, never have been, never will be.

OMG.....  You're SOOoooo SMART!!    
Myself, Mr. Tanner, Open Wheel Racers, Wind Tunnel Engineers: We are all just BUTT STUPID....      Do Tell Us More!


HEH, Heh, heh....yah     

[Texas Lawdog]

Hamlin pulled it out of his butt for the win.

[yeti76620]

Hamlin just got off pit row first and the 17 Ford Fusion car gave him a run for the money... got sidways...  hung on for first loser...    .....  All the cautions at the end threw the fuel game out the window...  

OHhhh JR....  that's race'n....    Just dang sorry that it was the ol' Guy team-mate.....      One thing 'bout Mark Martin is that it was NOT done on purpose...   .....  It's JUST racing....

Next weekend is Road Course weekend: Sprint Cup CA.. Nationwide WI ..  wonder who'll be taken the "Red Eyes" back'n forth?...

[Leo Tanner]

OMG.....  You're SOOoooo SMART!!    
Myself, Mr. Tanner, Open Wheel Racers, Wind Tunnel Engineers: We are all just BUTT STUPID....      Do Tell Us More!


HEH, Heh, heh....yah     

Ain't no more ta tell. Just admitted ta ma ignorance.  Baleive I humbly thanked ya and mentioned that I was mistaken.  I don't follow BMWs a Mercedes.

[yeti76620]

Ain't no more ta tell. Just admitted ta ma ignorance.  Baleive I humbly thanked ya and mentioned that I was mistaken.  I don't follow BMWs a Mercedes.

Meant NO Offense to you Mr. Tanner, on the contrary I'm in agreement with you about this "Wing Thing" if ya properly read:

I myself, like you, grew up just calling them "wings" because that was exactly what they are to do exactly what ya said they do.... push / stick that part of the vehicle down to the ground...        Somewheres along the line of time they've become "spoilers"....    

Now because these wings are on the front some folks want to force the term "splitter" down our throats 'cause NASCAR has coin'd ( I Think, maybe wrong) the term for the front wing....    

These wings / splitters / spoilers have been used on the front end of the "Open Wheel'rs" long before NASCAR took "stock" outa stock car!    

It's all a matter of terminology regardless of the vehicle manufacture and the location of these "spoilers-vortex generator-splitter-what ever" to create a composite of wings to make  the Whole Vehicle a WING!  There will be a high pressure side and a low pressure side... lift or down force... depends how the wing is configured

It's all about low drag and down-force in car racing!

I Humbly apologize to you Mr. Leo Tanner if you took offense by me including you with myself as a response to RC's quote......

PS....  This whole thing is getting outta hand...  I shall make no further comment on this "wing" matter....   

[Texas Lawdog]

I got to see my first Nascar race in 1963, The Daytona 500. We got free tickets when we had the parts store and sold products that were used by the teams. My Dad was Service Manager at our local Ford dealership from 53 to 57. He was a Ford man. He thought that Ford only built one good engine, The flathead. We had auto related busineses until 1970, when he was elected Sheriff, which he served for almost 8 years. He passed away in 78.  We had a parts store, a body shop, a radiator shop, a garage, and a battery-electric shop. We had a Sprint car in 1950(powered by a flathead), we sponsored Cars, and I did some Drag racing in the Stock classes in the middle to late 60s. We also attended the Indy 500 in the 50s and late 60s. We got free tickets for the race as well. We had some long drives to Florida and Indianapolis from the Texas Panhandle. I grew up in garages and my Dad learned to be a mechanic by working on Model Ts as a kid in the 20s and 30s. He came home after WW2 and opened his first garage. He was always a mechanic and a Ford man. It really hurt his feelings when I bought my first car, a 56 Chevy BelAir 2dr Ht.

[Arcey]

The old man had modifieds with flatheads. My first was a '55 Chevrolet, 2 door sedan.

Decent race for Michigan yestitty. The last caution made it what is was by clumpin' it all up. Damned if Kenseth didn't try ta get 'nother one.

[Texas Lawdog]

Dad's first business after he returned from WW2 was a wrecking yard and operating the only wrecker service in town. He built his first wrecker out of a 38 Ford car with a hand crank winch.

[yeti76620]

Really GOOD STUFF there Texas Lawdog...... I do like reading/hear'n of family history of the ol' days and how dynamic your Pa was.  He sounds like an awesomely talented fella...      

Cuz Carl seemed to be the only fella to go "Red Eye'n" then decided to stay in Sonoma....  A Wise Move IMHO!   

JR & Mark Martin are friends again for I had no doubt that would be the case....   .... Tough News for Brian Vickers..... I hope he lands on his feet with a competive team....   

Putz'n make'n lead bricks for future lead-heads 'till Nationwide at Road America in mid-afternoon...   

[Texas Lawdog]

Yep, He was a true mechanic. If he couldn't find a part, he could make it. I lost him too early to Cancer at age 59. He wound up being a purty fair investigator, for someone who had never been a cop before. He was my best man at my wedding and he helped initiate me into the Masons.

[Texas Lawdog]

I had not heard about the Red Bull team in NASCAR. I heard that they were cutting back in their Air Race sponsorships. I hate to see 2 of the Toyos not competing next year.

[Arcey]

Lee White is tryijn' to keep whoever ends up with it with Toyota. If anyone ends up with it. The rumors started almost at the start of the season. There's too many to mention.

[yeti76620]

Interesting race and interesting finish for the Nationwide boys at Road America.... Fuel Milage and then: The Ringers....  HEH Heh heh  yah...  

Congrats Reed Sorenson!.....  Ricky Stenhouse Jr 8th

Sonoma tomorrow...      

GO 88
He's gotta get a win and maybe a goofy road course is it...  

[yeti76620]

Cool race today and Kurt Busch's first Road Course WIN...     Kinda Bristol like of old but Far More Excite'n than Bristol now for sure....    the Lefts and Rights was very entertaining today as Vickers and Fat Tony just cracked me up {and a few others}....         Really sorry to see Jr finish 41st with a raddooo hole'n up and killing his motor short of half-way....   

Next week Daytona night races...  Nationwide Friday then Sprint following night!!      


GO 88

[Texas Lawdog]

That 22 car is doing better than expected this year. The 2 isn't. I'm not a big Ski fan. He ain't paid his dues as of yet, been too many of his press clippings. I would like to see Cuzzin Carl win the Cup this year and dethrone 5 Time. June Bug has a bunch of bad Karma, maybe he needs to make a change. Him and HMS has been a hit or miss relationship since he came there.