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« on: May 23, 2007, 12:02:32 pm »


Do any of you have a simple way for me to determine just how soft some lead I have is?

I have access to a bunch of lead bricks some are marked as low level  radiation shielding lead.  I have a plumber's ingot and with the old thumbnail scratch test these bricks seem as soft as that.

Also what is the going price for lead?


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« Reply #1 on: May 23, 2007, 12:44:02 pm »

Will I keep some of the crayon point type 32 Lee bullets around cast out of known alloys and see how soft I can go with out making a mark on the ingots, but any bullet should work.  With that said I am 99% sure what you have is pure lead. 
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« Reply #2 on: May 23, 2007, 02:54:32 pm »

Will,

A way that will give you a "relative" hardness to a known sample is to take ingots of both the known and unknown samples and with a steel ball bearing between them compress them in a vice or arbor press until there is a measurable indentation in both.  By measuring the diameters of each indentation you can get a "relative" hardness of one to the other.  The softer will have the larger indentation.  I usually use a 1/2" - 3/4" diameter ball bearing.

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« Reply #3 on: May 23, 2007, 03:57:13 pm »

HHW, thanks for the tip......I don't think I have any ball bearings around but I guess any piece of steel would do the same thing.

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« Reply #4 on: May 25, 2007, 06:56:39 am »

Will---Send me about 1/2 a bullet and I'll get you the exact composition of what you have. This is part of what we do where I work, I know the operator of the equipment quite well and it won't be a problem. If you need my address, PM me.
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« Reply #5 on: May 25, 2007, 09:16:38 am »

GW, thanks for the offer.  I may take you up on it later.  The lead is in bricks just a little bigger than a building brick.  Each weighs about 50#s.

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« Reply #6 on: May 25, 2007, 12:06:04 pm »

When you do Will, report back, I'm curious.
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« Reply #7 on: May 28, 2007, 05:37:51 pm »

A good friend of mine has a bullet casting business.  He tested it for me and said it was pure lead Grin

I have no idea what lead is going for now but I have nearly 600 pounds. Wink

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« Reply #8 on: May 29, 2007, 05:59:15 am »

Will, that oughta last you the rest of the year!! Grin
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« Reply #9 on: May 29, 2007, 06:22:29 pm »

Pure lead in small quanity in Bay Area is .75 - 1.00 Lb Depends who is working
counter at the Steel yard.

I have a friend up in  N. Ca and he bought 5,000 Lb for a sailboat keel and paid .35 - .40 a lb. delivered.

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« Reply #10 on: June 11, 2007, 09:31:11 pm »

That'll keep ya in business fer a while, Will.  Grin

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« Reply #11 on: August 05, 2007, 06:40:11 pm »

Yep...that 600m lbs. oughta last you a day or two.  Wink
I've the Saeco Lead Hardness Tester by Redding that I use to test lead...course a bullet has to be cast in order to do it.
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« Reply #12 on: November 17, 2007, 07:36:00 pm »

I have been gone running the nuke circuit this past fall. Yes the lead you are using is pure.
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