Ammo for the Sharps .45/70 .45/90 and .45/120

[Pedro]

Could I have a list of the best mix are you using ?
Thanx MEN, I appreciated alot !

[Fox Creek Kid]

Pedro, if you're talking BP there is no "slap together" round that works in all guns. Loading an accurate and CONSISTENT BP round can take months of shooting every weekend to find a load. I don't shoot smokeless in these rifles so I can't help you there.

[Delmonico]

What you need to do is go through this forum and the Darksiders Den and read all the treads on ammo reloading and go from there, many threads on bullets, casting them, lubing or paper patching them, mostly with black powder or subs.

If you are wanting to load smokeless look to data from Accurate Arms and 5744, it seems to be what most who shoot nitro powders seems to like, it was developed for that purpose.

Even with modern firearms and Nitro powders, there is no load that is best for all rifles, shotguns or handguns.

[Pedro]

My goal was to have an idea of which kind of CARTRIDGE are you using...
Understand me ?

For example
CAIUS TITUS is using 535 gr.bullet,  IMR5744 70grain, Aussie brass.

Only to know..understand me?

BP and also smokeless too....no prob..alot of guys asking me!

[Ol Gabe]

Pedro,
Good suggestions from Fox Creek Kid & Del, they know whereof they speak, but it would also be of help to know where you are located and shoot since humidity and barometric pressure can also effect the performance of the reloads. For example, you wouldn't necessarily reload for a 45-70 you are shooting in hot and humid Louisiana the same way you would in a high and dry valley in New Mexico. It is doubtful that the same load would perform the same way due to humidity and air pressure. So, please give us an idea where you or those asking you for data are located so the pros here can suggest better info.
Best regards and good shooting!
'Ol Gabe

[Pedro]

WOW WOW WOW

As usual 'Ol Gabe touched the BULLEYE !
He is right as bacon on the scramble eggs...

ok ok..let me have a minimum mix for the different three areas:
1.humidity area (for ex. LOUISIANA)
2.desert area (for ex. NEW MEXICO or ARIZONA ?)
3.classic plain are (for ex. MISSOURI ?)

so we can have a better idea.

I know for example a friend of mine was using only bullet from .450 gr in windly MONTANA!!   
 

[calexander]

I have an armi sport 45/120 1874 model sharps 34 inch barrel double set triggers. I will not take for granted that you have shot a lot of black powder. When loading the black powder cartredge the use of magnium primers is a must and never leave any dead air space in the cratridge, now having said that for the 45/120 with a 405 grain flat base hollow point I load 82.5 graing by weight not volume Pyrodex  P and a over the powder 45cal wonder wod this gives me about 1900 feet per second at the muzzle and recoil is heavy but manageiable.

[drcook]

If it was me, besides reading the forum here, I would go to the following and spend a couple weeks
reading

http://www.shilohrifle.com/forums/

http://www.bpcr.net/index-a.htm

http://www.longrangebpcr.com/

if you are going to shoot smokeless, there is plenty of info in the reloading manuals for the 45-70. The
larger 45's have such a big case, that shooting smokeless is inadvisable.

for blackpowder:

you will find that what works for my rifles, won't necessarily work for your rifle(s). also you will need to
determine whether you will be shooting plain old Goex, (about 13.00 per lb when bought in 25 lb cases)
Goex Express, Swiss, 17.00 + per lb, etc.

Different powders require different loading techniques, such as compression amount, etc.

I shoot Goex because I am buy 25 lb cases, and can't afford 1000.00 a year for powder to shoot swiss,

You don't necessarily need "magnum" primers. That is a myth that has persisted since smokeless came
into use.

A lot of the competitive shooters are  actually using large pistol primers with thick wads under them,
or standard primers with under powder wads to cut down on the briesence (spelling ?)

I use "match" primers. Fed 210M (the M designates match, not magnum) or CCI BR-2's (Benchrest
quality primers).

[calexander]

Drcook I recommend the magnium primers in the 45/120 only because I get mor consistant velocity when trying to burn 110 to 120 grains large pistol promers in a rifel case what about hte primmer pocket  how does tha work.

[Ranch 13]

large pistol promers in a rifel case what about hte primmer pocket  how does tha work.

 Depending on load factors , they work great. I have a load for one of my 45-70's that shoots super good using largepistol magnum primers in rp nickle cases.

 Pedro, one load that works consistantly well in a variety of 45-70 rifles with black powder is 68 grs of Goex cartridge winchester cases, and ww large rifle primers, a .030 fiber wad and either the lyman postell or the government bullet seated to the driving band.