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[Seth Hawkins]

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[Deadeye Don]

Wow  those are beautiful.  Whoever had those converted did a fantastic job.  The wood on the grips is fantastic.  Are those cut for stock fitting also.  It looks like they are.  You must be proud.   Safe shooting.  Deadeye.

[Long Johns Wolf]

Good idea Seth. Pic of my 2 prized Centaur Colt license M 1860/1960 Armies. They have 3-screw frames cut for shoulder stock. The blue one (carbon steel) comes with 2 rebated cylinders: one plain, one with the Centaur engraving, the stainless one has the fully fluted cylinder. Sweet actions as you would expect from a Colt license gun.
Stumbled over them at a gun show last year. They had my name written all over them, and they were a steal because they were perceived as Italian replicas.
Bootsie

[Long Johns Wolf]

Ok the system did not take the other pic, here we go again.
Bootsie

[Flint]

Two of my favorites, Ubertis shown with R&D conversions installed, and the 7-1/2 inch barrel gun also has a 5-1/2 inch barrel to match the short one.  The ejector assy's are from the 1872, the gripframes are Thunderer.  Front sight on 7-1/2 is from Uberti Remington, short scratch built.

[Halfway Creek Charlie]

Here'sy newest "BABY

1972 Colt 2nd Gen. 1851 navy, as yet unfired.

[Jrw8214]

Those are beautiful Seth. Thats the one conversion Cimarron should make that they havent yet(now that theyve introduced the Richards II).
Who did the work?

[Flint]

So I decided to make another, 4-1/2 inch, now it needs a front sight and a reblue.  I wanted 4 inches but the barrel marking might be too close, maybe with a post, but then I'll have to redo the muzzle crown and bevel.  Happened to have an old spare barrel in the drawer.

[afa]

Hello Seth,

My Honey's:

3rd generation Colt 1861 Navy's.
Calibre 38 Long Colt
Converted by Kenny Howell

These are not drop-in conversions.  The original percussion cylinders were cut-down, the hammers modified, and the barrel lugs contoured just as the originals were done by the Colt factory 100+ years ago.  They retain the fourth screw and the notch in the recoil shield on the left side.  The right side notch was filled-in for the conversion ring/loading gate screw.  The front sight's were replaced with a dovetailed front sight, and the barrels were lined for use with .357-sized lead.

As I'm not the original owner of the guns, I can't provide much more in the way of details about them.

I LOVE these guns!  They feel like an extension of me when I hold them and shoot them.

It seems that the bottom gun has some purplish colored ejector housing while the top ones is black.
I have a Kenny Howell 1860 1st Richards conversion with the same off color and wonder what´s the reason for these differences in finish.



Andreas Prinz

[Major 2]

My turn ( yeah I finally got a new Digital camera )





12 OClock  - USPFA Type 1 Prototype
1 OClock - 2nd Gen.  Colt BP
3 OClock - Original Three Screw (Circa 1862 Issued to the 5 Iowa Cavalry)
5 OClock - 72 OT
6 OClock - Kenny Howell Type 1 ( yep ! the extractor is a tad different blue)
7 Remington conversion
9 OClock - 2nd Gen. I've owned since 1977 with R&D Cylinder and Ivory Grips
11 OClock - 2nd Gen. Colt BP 51 Navy

[Marshal Deadwood]

Guys, them are some fine guns you have.

I finally got a '60Army (Taylors/Uberti) thats excellent. Third time was the charme. I do have to say Taylors were more than helpful in making things right.

The fit is good, the function is good, and shoots excellent. Im satisified with this one.

Some day, id like to save my pennys for a Colt '60 Army, 2nd gen.....and then have a tasteful set of 'ivories' (prob tru-ivory) mounted to it.

Aint  nuffin' says old west like an ot revolver. Far and away my fav's.

Marshal Deadwood

[1860]

Hey Seth, do you remember the first one?

The bottom two 1860's are consecutive numbered 2nd generations that are still unfired, so far I've resisted shooting them because they have some value the way they are.  I wish they were blued but they were cheap enough when I got them.





Doug

[litl rooster]

  I just picked these up this week....  While waiting for them I was pondering new grips...But after seeing the wood I'll wait.  Their Cimarons/Uberti's .44 colt

[Deadeye Don]

  I just picked these up this week....  While waiting for them I was pondering new grips...But after seeing the wood I'll wait.  Their Cimarons/Uberti's .44 colt

Those grips are fantastic.  i sure would not change those out.  That is really nice grain  IMHO.   Safe shooting.  Deadeye.

[Dusty Morningwood]

Well, not the prettiest girls at the dance, or the most exotic, but I love them just the same.  Top is a pair of Open Tops in .44 Special (shoot Russian in them) and the bottom is a gated R&D convesion of a London Navy.

[Long Johns Wolf]

Purple-ish Color: FWIW - I owned a 3rd generation Colt SAA from around 1978 production where the triggerguard was nat Colt black but was "discolored" purple-ish. Likewise my 2 Armies  2nd generation Colts from the Cavalry Set, approx 1977 production, have just cylinders discolored the same.
I recall reading in a US Colt SAA book about this discoloration some 15 years back, don't remember the name. The writer stated that this was found on a number of Colt SAA's manufactured during the aforementioned period, refered to it as "off bluing" or a similar phrase.
Bootsie

[Halfway Creek Charlie]

Most of the time this happens to older repros. the frames (remington clones are ones that you can ell easily) and the bbls are of different types or grades of steel and take the blueing differently thus the frames (or other parts on other repros) turn purple and the bbls remain blue.

There is an original Remy on Gunbroker right now that was reblued and the frame is purple and the bbl is still blue. SAD but it'l make the price better for someone.

[Mako]

Hello Seth,

It seems that the bottom gun has some purplish colored ejector housing while the top ones is black.
I have a Kenny Howell 1860 1st Richards conversion with the same off color and wonder what´s the reason for these differences in finish.



Andreas Prinz

Andreas,
Black oxide (gun bluing) is affected by the alloying elements in the steel. High nickel content or silicon are two of the common reasons for bluing coming out a purple or plum color initially, or turning lighter and taking on those hues as the finish ages.  Castings often have higher silicon content and have a tendency to turn reddish/plum color with age. The ejector housing you show in your picture while probably not a casting  may be a highly alloyed piece of rolled stock and depending upon the type of salts used in the bluing process will probably lighten a bit more.  There are techniques and black oxide baths that were developed a long time ago to deal with steels such as the Winchester high nickel steel, these are often the only processes that will render a deep black/blue finish.

If you want it to be reblued take it to a competent gunsmith that can explain to you why a finish would turn purple, or how they would deal with a part that was coming out purple.  If their answer is to thermally shock the part by plunging the part into cool water and then back into the salts heated to the maximum operating temperature of the salts, then know that is not the solution you want.  Shocking is a method to get a blacker part initially but it will usually fade with time.

Regards,
Mako

[Halfway Creek Charlie]

Mako,
Thanks for explaining that I knew there was a difference in the metals but didn't know why.

[afa]

Hello Mako,

thank you very much for the explanation.
For the moment I will leave the gun as is, because it´s my only Cartridge Conversion and I´m really glad I have it.
 

Andreas Prinz

[Marshal Deadwood]

Halfway Creek,,,were you gonna buy a Taylors/Uberti ''58 Remmie,,,would you go with the steel,,,steel case hardened,,or the forged steel frame ?

Pros and cons of the choices ?

The more I glance, the better they look.

So many guns, so little money !

Marshal Deadwood

[Halfway Creek Charlie]

I would probably buy the blued frame, either casrt or forged, as they are more authentic looking, Remington never built a casehardened frame. They look good, but not authentic. Now I would probably lean towards the forged frames.

My thoughts are that Uberti will go to the forged frame with all their Remy's in the near future. Simply because they are used to build both the '58 and the  cartridge conversion model. It will save them money down the stretch.

[Abilene]

I've posted some of these pics before but since the topic Show'n'Tell has arisen, here they are:

My first pair of '51 Richards-Masons.  The one on the left was one of the first in the country.  I had won a Norinco '97 at a match that I had no need for, so traded it in to get this gun for about half price.  Sold a '94 Trapper to help pay for the second one about 6 months later.  Great shooters.


Seeing one of Cimarron's show guns, an engraved '51 percussion in charcoal blue, gave me the hankering for this next set, which were actually given to me as a bonus when I worked at Traditional Effects (can't beat that with a stick!).  They were engraved by Kelly Laster, then I sent the frames to Doug Turnbull to get re-case-hardened, then changed to grips to make "Thunderer-Mason Conversions".  These are the guns I shoot the most for CAS, mostly BP of course (which blew most of the charcoal blue off the front of the cylinders in short order, but otherwise hasn't bothered them).

you can see this pic supersized at http://www.davidscottharper.com/shoot/Thunderer-Masons.jpg for detail on the engraving.

And finally, a gun that is not mine but that should be important to fans of STORM.  This is Cimarron's Opentop serial number X01, the first Opentop to be mass produced since 1872.  Took this pic at Shot Show '04.  Ivory by Paul Persinger.

[Halfway Creek Charlie]

Another David Harper??

I resemble that remark...LOL

Yep Me too, but David is my middle name.

Are you related to the Harper's of Pendelton County Virginia (W. V. after the late unpleasentness with the north)

[Abilene]

Howdy Dave,
Well, I think it's been Texas since 1900 or so but before that, who knows?  Since we might be kin, can you loan me ten bucks?