I shoot at a club that hangs targets from chains and our posse has had a taste of lead when a shooter blasts more of the chain than the target with a shotgun. Our club uses Artzen steel, excellent stuff, ours is going on 5 years with no problems and with our target stands we haven't even had to turn them in 2 years. I can't really describe our stands, i'll need to get a pic and post it, but they hold the target angled back away from shooter and have no more than 1/4" of side movement. No hooks or bolts stick out on the face of the target. I shoot at a club that uses the Artzen stands, the 3 legged folders and they are always having to go downrange to reset one that has fallen over. I think they are just a little too tall getting a might top heavy, plus part of it may just be their soil type at the range.