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Offline Delmonico

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Rendering Tallow for Bullet Lube.
« on: November 12, 2006, 12:27:03 PM »
I use deer tallow and beeswax in a 50/50 mix for my black powder lube.  I bumped my rendering thread in Cosie's Corner in case with deer seasons being on, someone wants to know how to render it.  Someone asked my yesterday on the telaphone.

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Re: Rendering Tallow for Bullet Lube.
« Reply #1 on: August 26, 2012, 04:43:36 PM »
 Delmonico - the link is dead.  Any chance seeing if you can bring it back?
Rendering is a good subject and tallow is an excellent lube ingredient
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Re: Rendering Tallow for Bullet Lube.
« Reply #2 on: August 26, 2012, 06:36:23 PM »
I fixed it, thanks, forgot I moved it.
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Re: Rendering Tallow for Bullet Lube.
« Reply #3 on: August 26, 2012, 07:18:16 PM »
Thanks D.  With mutton tallow being on the hard to get side all the time - this is an excellent post for those that want to use tallow in their lube.
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Re: Rendering Tallow for Bullet Lube.
« Reply #4 on: August 27, 2012, 12:22:35 AM »
I recall reading an article in BACKWOODSMAN on rendering sheep tallow. Instead of heating the chunks of fat directly it called for boiling the finely diced fat in water in a pot.  I did it that way and created pure white tallow.  When I filtered out the solids in a nylon stocking I further processed the fat directly by frying it.  The result was browny yellow.  It still works the same way, but I kept it separately.  I'm not sure if it is any different, other than possibly with a bit of burnt smell.

In an internet search tonight I found a suggestion to start the rendering with a bit of water in the bottom of the pot.  The water evaporates, but likely prevents most of the burning of the tallow.  Keeping a low heat was also a common bit of advice.
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Re: Rendering Tallow for Bullet Lube.
« Reply #5 on: August 31, 2012, 06:16:15 PM »
i've always used deer tallow and bees wax as well. i trap a good bit and a couple of years ago i had a good run on catching coons. i was trapping in town for a local bank and these coons were living high on the hog eating out of mcdonalds and kfc dumpsters and were plenty fat. i rendered  the fat down and filled up two jelly jars. i made up some lube with 50/50 coon lard and bees wax and that stuff works great.  and asy to come by
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Re: Rendering Tallow for Bullet Lube.
« Reply #6 on: September 06, 2012, 10:53:43 AM »
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Re: Rendering Tallow for Bullet Lube.
« Reply #7 on: September 06, 2012, 12:12:33 PM »
PITA does not fare well in Louisana.
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Re: Rendering Tallow for Bullet Lube.
« Reply #8 on: September 06, 2012, 07:02:53 PM »
Surprised the local PITA folks did not have you jailed

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no they don't. don't yall watch the a&e channel?  ;D one of  the mornings that i  was running my traps for the bank, there is a ice cream shop in the same parking lot. i had a machete and my trapping trowel with me walking through the parking lot. the girl working the ice cream stand saw this long haired bearded guy with a machete and called the local police. of course they came out and when they found out what i was doing they wanted to help me run traps. come to find out the ice cream girl was a college student and wasn't  even from louisiana. go figure
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Re: Rendering Tallow for Bullet Lube.
« Reply #9 on: September 06, 2012, 07:07:25 PM »
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Re: Rendering Tallow for Bullet Lube.
« Reply #10 on: October 09, 2012, 10:43:30 AM »
Dixie gun works is now back selling mutton tallow for a couple of bucks per tub, for some reason the stuff is now yellow - maybe they dye it. I usually boil it and strain it one more time. I admire people who render their own from deer and smaller critters, but not shooting to many bear or buffalo in Michigan, well, there is only so much time in life. It is a good living history activity though and I may well do it this weekend for a Great Lakes impression of a french trapper (OK, OK, I am buying beef fat but the public doesn't know that - after that I just get rid of it since the mutton tallow is just seems to work better).

The use of tallow by commercial hide hunters for their wagons, guns, and about anything else they might think of is well documented. What I can not find is any reference to anything that might harden the tallow (like beeswax) for cartridge use. Not such a problem in the winter climate but I always wondered what they would have used out on the prairie sitting around a campfire to make those lube cookies with during the warmer periods, in fact the description of them doing that is awfully light. They may have prepared grease groove bullets but from my reading I have come to believe that the vast majority were paper patched, the factory sold them in both forms. Any documented primary reference to some hide hunter leaving the settlements with a sales record of purchasing beeswax would be appreciated.
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Re: Rendering Tallow for Bullet Lube.
« Reply #11 on: October 09, 2012, 11:18:55 AM »
James:
Good to see you on the wire again. 
FWIW: Part of the answer may be the fat they uses.  I tooks a couple a meat cutting classes in college.  They were a requirement for a degree in cow science.  Any way the fat in the kidney area which if I remember the instructors termed "caul fat" is a LOT harder than the rest of the fat on the animal.  Rendering the "caul fat" by itself would have resulted in a more dense tallow. 
Alexandrea Allred who was one of the rangers at Bents Old Fort in the late 70's and 80's did a lot of cooking demonstrations and things of the kitchen sort, used the "caul fat" to make candles. 
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Re: Rendering Tallow for Bullet Lube.
« Reply #12 on: October 09, 2012, 01:31:09 PM »
Joe: Very good point, and in fact there are comments to taking the fat around organs not that found around muscle. When taking deer fat I have just cut whatever looked like fat and dumping it in my boiler. But I did not use it for bullets lube, but rather just greasing patches and use on iron, wood and leather.

A little experimental archeology, it would be interesting if anyone has experience with buffalo tallow from organ fat that they have used alone for making lube cookies. I'd be more than happy to do it myself if someone would supply the buffalo!!!!
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Re: Rendering Tallow for Bullet Lube.
« Reply #13 on: October 09, 2012, 06:51:46 PM »
The tallow from wild deer, range fed buffalo and even cattle has a much higher melting point that grain fed, don't know why, just know it is.
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