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 11 
 on: Today at 12:50:33 pm 
Started by dusty texian - Last post by Chev. William
82 grain sounds like the "Inside Lube" design bullet.  If you can measure th ecase length, that will give a better idea.

From the Ammoguide cartridge notes:
"Marlin offered their 1892 rifle in .32 Short/Long Colt but the line proved more popular in Europe and was not widely chambered by other American gun makers. Commercially, the .32 Short and Long Colt line was eventually replaced by the .32 Smith & Wesson Short and Long rounds.

According to a 1905 Marlin catalog, the .32 Long Colt was loaded with 12 grains of blackpowder behind a 90 grain bullet. Originally loaded with an outside-lubricated .313" bullet, the diameter of the projectile was reduced when an inside-lubricated bullet was later employed. The new bullet was also lighter and shorter, reducing the cartridge overall length."

The .32 LC with an 82 grain Inside Lube Bullet should have a .916" case length and a 1.216" overall length and the bullet is about .302" diameter.
The .32 LC with an 90 grain Outside Lube Bullet should have a .312" diameter bullet with visible groove son the exposed 'nose' near the case mouth filled/coated with a Waxy lubricant.  The overall cartridge should be about 1.280" wiht a cae length of less than that mentioned for the Inside Lube version.

Look though the previous post to this thread and I believe you will find photos of the different versions, including the RF versions that were the first one sin the family/series.

Another point, You should "Slug" your barrel and measure the actual Bore/Groove diameters of your barrel.

Best Regards,
Chev. William

 12 
 on: Today at 12:44:59 pm 
Started by Bat 2919 - Last post by Bat 2919
A discussion about 32-20 brass availability took root on another thread that prompted me to go to the Starline brass site.  The last time I ordered 32-20 from them I sat on a back order list for 3 or 4 months but my 1000 32-20ís arrived in their own time.  No, I didnít find any 32-20 but I was amazed at the number of cowboy/wild bunch calibers I did find available.  Some of them are a bit esoteric but then again I canít recall the last time I saw 45 Long Colt available for order anywhere.

Available right now:

38 Long Colt
38 S & W
38-40
41 Long Colt
44 Russian
45 ACP
45 Long Colt
45 Schofield
45-90
45-110

 13 
 on: Today at 12:26:39 pm 
Started by Grizzly Adams - Last post by yahoody
Chapparals?  I look at them as a "kit gun".  A set of parts you buy and then finish to make a real gun ;-)

This is the quote I find interesting. 

"The strength of the Model 1876 rifle and the .45-75 W.C.F. cartridge was tested by Winchester in the late 1870s. The factory conducted tests on the strength and reliability of the action to answer concerns by customers. These tests will astound collectors and shooters who have stated the Model 1876's toggle link action is "weak." In response to a letter sent to the company by Charles Hallock, Esquire, of Forest & Stream magazine, Oliver Winchester responded by telling about the tests the factory accomplished on the 1876 rifle. He indicated that engineers first started the tests by removing one of the toggle links and fired 20 rounds (this was with .45-75 W.C.F. cartridge with 350 grain bullet) with no effect. They restored the missing link then went through 6 more trials starting with a charge of 105 grains of black powder, behind a 700 grain bullet! The comment "worked well" is noted. They then increased the charge of powder to 165 grains behind 3 bullets (1,150 grains) and that "worked well." From there, they increased the powder charge to 203 grains and added more bullets until they reached 1,750 grains of lead (five 350 grain bullets). This also "worked well." Finally, they added one more bullet, bringing the total weight to 2,100 grains, and things began to happen. The comment was, "Breech pin slightly bent. Arm working stiff." The seventh and final test was again 203 grains of powder but this time six Martini bullets weighing 480 grains each (2,880 grains) were used. "The charge bent the breech pin, blew out the side plates, split the frame and otherwise disabled the arm," was the comment. Oliver Winchester noted that in this seventh trial, the shell had burst into fragments and the escape of gas at the breech did the damage."

 
Being active in the gun industry at  many levels the last 30 years I have seen so much ignorance represented as "fact" I make a point of checking the well know "facts" out myself.  Beginning to think the "weak" '76 was a historical "fact" based in fiction.

 14 
 on: Today at 12:26:33 pm 
Started by El Peludo - Last post by Texas Lawdog
The temp sounds great. I hate temps that dip below 50.  I should know tonight whether I get the winning bid on the revolver. Moose baked a loaf of gingerbread for breakfast, with some fresh fruit.

 15 
 on: Today at 12:22:13 pm 
Started by Will Lynchem - Last post by Kent Shootwell
When you get to a muzzle loading match just ask around and if three's black powder around some one there will steer you to it. Buying black powder by mail is a good way if you buy by the case, by the pound isn't much good.
A tip on loading your rifle, don't crush the powder or bounce the ram rod on the seated ball, a deformed ball doesn't help you hit center.

 16 
 on: Today at 12:21:50 pm 
Started by Eph289 - Last post by Rowdy Fulcher
Howdy
Plan on adding a Cimarron mp522 ( 4 3/4 inch 44wcf  ) to my line up . This is what I plan on carrying hunting , love the short barrel .

 17 
 on: Today at 12:20:06 pm 
Started by Grizzly Adams - Last post by Sir Charles deMouton-Black
I love this quote, which should be included in the heading for this board;

The late William B. Ruger once said the Model 1876 was "Just a piece of wood and steel." Hesitating, he added, "But it's a damn elegant piece of wood and steel."

Yahoody; Did I notice in your linked article that the Chapparals should handle 28K psi? I came across an article once that described an amazing proof test that exceeded all expectations. Modify: I see that you quoted the passage on the other thread.

BTW; I try to stick with what I know by experience or from reading authoritative material, unless I so state. I will personally follow the biased opinion I stated above. And I am unanimous in that! Wink

 18 
 on: Today at 11:55:40 am 
Started by dusty texian - Last post by Cooperhawk
I didn't load those bullets.  I bought them off the shelf and I'm not sure what bullet they used in them.

The cartridges are Remington .32 LC with an 82 grain lead bullet.  I still have some,

The off the shelf price then was $13.96.  Wish I had a case.

 19 
 on: Today at 11:47:46 am 
Started by dusty texian - Last post by Chev. William
That sounds like you are not using Heeled bullets, since I would think the step from 'heel' to 'Driving Band' would have actted to stop the bullets being set back in the case mouth from light recoil.  If you are using the ".32 Long Rifle" style cartridge, it had a smaller diameter inside lube Bullet that does not hav ea 'heel' and is actually smaller than the Bore/Groove dimensions o fmos trifles made for the .32 Long Colt. 

Much earlier in this Thread there was a discussion on the various case lengths and the Style bullets used ovdr the years for the range of ".32 Long colt" family of cartridges.

Also, if you ar ea member of 'Ammoguide Interactive" they have all of them listed with dimensions in their data base.  in the Ammoguide 'search window' if you enter ".32" it will bring up a list of all of the .32 Cartridges in the data base with basic dimensions in a table from which you can select the one you wish to look at.

This is only ONE of the useful features of the Ammogude web page.

Best Regards,
Chev. william

 20 
 on: Today at 10:55:43 am 
Started by El Peludo - Last post by Major 2
That one is in 38 S&W.... I got some BP lubed .361 RN Bullets from Springfield Slim and loaded them up with 3FFF.

Guess last night caught up to me, was up @ 6:30,  but just I got up again from a quick eye lid exam  Roll Eyes

May scrounge up something for noon repast , in a while  Undecided
Not interested in going out, Christmas TRAFFIC, shoppers, area Church crowd will have the "EATS" places packed ...
SHE's home now from the Sunday School class , dropped off the food for the B'day thing....
Now "SHE" off to Melbourne to her Sisters, dropping off gifts and Lunch with her.

Me .... NOPE !  I'm just fine here at the home base  Cheesy  ....voices say we may see 81į today
  

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