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Title: Wanting a 45 colt woods gun
Post by: DapperDan on January 17, 2018, 02:08:31 PM
I’m looking for a six shooter to carry in the woods and around the house, I live in the boonies and would like something faster to reload then my 1860 army. I don’t need Ruger only loads and I really don’t need adjustable sights, so any SSA clone will do, I’m set up for 45 colt so that’s what I’m gonna stick with. Ive been eyeing the 3.5” barrel with birdshead grip, but keep thinking I could save some money getting a 4.75” with plow handle grips. What’s everyone’s opinion on this.
Title: Re: Wanting a 45 colt woods gun
Post by: Professor Marvel on January 17, 2018, 06:08:34 PM
Welcome my good Tn , you have come to the right place. We are all bored and willing to babble on and on about nothing.
Beard on your criteria I myself would lean towards the Pietta ingredients 3.5 or 4 5/8 . the Pietta are quite good lately and have a replacement firing pin plate, unlike the Uberti... More later, my stupid cell is autocorrect ing me too much. Fuchweasel! Damn you autocorrect!
Yhs Prof marvel
Title: Re: Wanting a 45 colt woods gun
Post by: Baltimore Ed on January 17, 2018, 08:03:54 PM
My .45 woods gun was a 1911 for may years. Homemade snakeshot load was chambered, ball in the mag. With a .22 rifle for squirrel. When I deer hunted my sidearm was a Woodsman .22 MT.

Just found you a .357 on GB for 488.00 and a nice .45 for 650.00, 3.5 inch bbls. You probably will have to find a used one to get a .45 under 500.00. Good hunting.
Title: Re: Wanting a 45 colt woods gun
Post by: DapperDan on January 17, 2018, 08:42:55 PM
Who makes a 3.5” SSA revolver in 45lc that has the transfer bar and is under $500? Also are the Italian guns subpar to the Ruger? I know the new vaquero I had was a very nice gun but after having my pietta 1860 the quality doesn’t seem that different...
Title: Re: Wanting a 45 colt woods gun
Post by: Professor Marvel on January 17, 2018, 09:09:11 PM
AH My Good Tn -

Who makes a 3.5” SSA revolver in 45lc that has the transfer bar and is under $500? Also are the Italian guns subpar to the Ruger? I know the new vaquero I had was a very nice gun but after having my pietta 1860 the quality doesn’t seem that different...

you would have to go and set criteria, wouldn;t you?

3.5" Pietta SAA's
https://www.emf-company.com/store/pc/-Pony-Express-Express-Agent-c73.htm

a wide variety of Pietta SAA's
https://www.emf-company.com/store/pc/1873-Great-Western-II-Revolvers-c64.htm

one under $500
https://www.emf-company.com/store/pc/DAKOTA-II-45LC-4-3-4-292p1375.htm

transfer bar
https://www.emf-company.com/store/pc/1873-Transfer-Bar-Revolvers-c522.htm

these can oft' be obtained cheaper, if one shops around real hard....

but at least there's some ideas.

 yhs
prof marvel
Title: Re: Wanting a 45 colt woods gun
Post by: DapperDan on January 18, 2018, 09:46:59 AM
Thoughts on the heritage big bore revolvers?
Title: Re: Wanting a 45 colt woods gun
Post by: Jake C on January 18, 2018, 10:13:30 AM
Thoughts on the heritage big bore revolvers?

I'm pretty sure the Heritage Big Bore revolvers are Pietta made. I believe that they're essentially the same SAA clone/repro that Traditions sells, with the transfer bar safety. If I'm correct, then they're solid guns. Mine had a few sharp edges I needed to touch up, but shot well and was reliable enough. Price was good.
Title: Re: Wanting a 45 colt woods gun
Post by: Good Troy on January 18, 2018, 10:29:01 AM
Maybe this is off track, but I've been considering a Redhawk in 45 Colt.  Six rounds, 4.2" bbl, SS.  It isn't a "cowboy" gun in the historical sense (it is a DA/SA), nor, is it less than $500.  But, it appeals to me for the strong cylinder lock, and ease of reloading.  I'm considering this for dual purpose woods carry and home defense (currently use 1911).  There is even a model that will accept 45 acp with moonclips.
Title: Re: Wanting a 45 colt woods gun
Post by: Jeremiah Jones on January 18, 2018, 02:30:51 PM
Mine is a Uberti 1875 in .45LC.  I have a large Bowie on the same belt. 
Title: Re: Wanting a 45 colt woods gun
Post by: DapperDan on January 18, 2018, 06:03:22 PM
What is everyone’s opinion on 357 vs 45 colt?
Title: Re: Wanting a 45 colt woods gun
Post by: Professor Marvel on January 19, 2018, 12:10:46 AM
Ah My Good Netizens -

Isn't the Ruger Redhawk something llike 65 pounds heavy and comes with carriage wheels?   ;D

regarding .357 vs .45 Colt, there are plusses for both:

.357 -
- "does everything" - except take down dinosaurs.
- economical
- versatile - everything from light ( and cheap) .38 spcl  to Buffalo Bore Bear Loads
                        https://www.buffalobore.com/index.php?l=product_detail&p=100 (https://www.buffalobore.com/index.php?l=product_detail&p=100)

- one can carry a full box of ammunition in belt loops and one's pants won't fall down...

.45 Colt
-  "does everything" - except take down dinosaurs.
-  not economical unless one reloads
-  more variety of loads are available these days than before, but they are pretty pricey
- large cartridges are very pretty and easier to find when dropped.
- "full of history"


if one had to choose and coud only afford one , I feel it's hard to go wrong with the .357.
that's what I did way back when .....

If one can afford it the rugers are almost unbreakable.

regarding the "woods gun".... I think light, powerful, easy to handle, intuitive...
something along these lines:
(https://www.gunsamerica.com/userimages/3220/957778914/wm_2868445.jpg)

or this one from Major 2
(http://www.cascity.com/forumhall/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=2677.0;attach=42541;image)

adn I think Yahoody posted somebut I can't seem to find them...

However, I have no delusions about stopping a grizz - read this missive:
https://www.buffalobore.com/index.php?l=product_list&c=108 (https://www.buffalobore.com/index.php?l=product_list&c=108)

hope this helps
prof marvel
Title: Re: Wanting a 45 colt woods gun
Post by: DapperDan on January 19, 2018, 03:18:59 PM
Do the 3” barrels make that much difference over the 4” guns?
Title: Re: Wanting a 45 colt woods gun
Post by: Baltimore Ed on January 19, 2018, 04:46:45 PM
Most of my vaqueros are 4 5/8 bbl. i had a 5.5 inch bbl and found that I could shoot the shorter bbl faster than the 5.5. I eventually had it cut down to a sheriffs model with a 2.5 inch by Jerry Horvath. He removed the bs warning from the bbl and the ejector rod boss. It's dead on but you do have to concentrate. I also have a 3.5 inch with the birdshead grip. I would have to say that i was faster with the standard grip 4 5/8 guns. Just the way they handled, btw I shoot duelist.
Title: Re: Wanting a 45 colt woods gun
Post by: DapperDan on January 19, 2018, 05:46:54 PM
If I needed to conceal it (quick trip to the store) is the 4 5/8 barrel that much harder to conceal?
Title: Re: Wanting a 45 colt woods gun
Post by: Baltimore Ed on January 19, 2018, 09:16:51 PM
It's not the bbl that prints, it's the grips and grip frame. The birdshead would print the least but a saa is a fairly large revolver.
Title: Re: Wanting a 45 colt woods gun
Post by: Dave T on January 20, 2018, 07:49:14 AM
If you want a transfer bar, i.e. six rounds loaded, get a Ruger and be done with it. Although not traditional it will handle most any task you come upon in the woods. And my vote goes for the 45 Colt, with all the qualifiers already stated. If you don't hand load yet, get started! (smile)

Dave
Title: Re: Wanting a 45 colt woods gun
Post by: DapperDan on January 20, 2018, 09:09:03 AM
I’ve pretty much decided on the Ruger in 45 colt, I’m honestly torn between the birdshead and the short spur, if I get the short spur then I’ll eventually get a birdshead grip frame
Title: Re: Wanting a 45 colt woods gun
Post by: Baltimore Ed on January 21, 2018, 08:57:16 AM
Here are mine. The birdshead with the smooth grips is the new smaller model, the other is the original version. I don't know if you can see the size difference but you sure can feel it when you shoot it. I do like the wide spur hammer of the new model.
Title: Re: Wanting a 45 colt woods gun
Post by: DapperDan on January 21, 2018, 10:24:10 AM
Any idea how the nm vaquero compares to a full size 1911?
Title: Re: Wanting a 45 colt woods gun
Post by: pony express on January 21, 2018, 01:36:12 PM
Any idea how the nm vaquero compares to a full size 1911?

Don't know if it helps, but.... I sometimes carry a 1911 in the same holster I use for a 4 3/4" New Model Blackhawk. Just needs a little more of the hammer thong pulled through top reach over the hammer. So they're close, just that the 1911 is flatter.
Title: Re: Wanting a 45 colt woods gun
Post by: DeaconKC on August 30, 2020, 02:46:15 PM
Sorry for the thread necromancy, but if you never decided, consider a Blackhawk in .45 Colt with the .45ACP cylinder.
Title: Re: Wanting a 45 colt woods gun
Post by: Cottonwood on December 02, 2021, 02:52:24 PM
I have both calibers in .357 Mag and .45 Colt, but my heart is fond for the .45 Colt... I do love the printability of the Uberti Cattleman .45 Colt and the 250 or 255gr pills that it spits.  ;D  But if I want a double action I'll take my GP100 Match Champion .357 Mag.  8)
Title: Re: Wanting a 45 colt woods gun
Post by: DarkLord on December 02, 2021, 04:06:25 PM
Over the past 40 years, here’s what I have learned…

Carry what you like, it’s just that simple.

Unless you’re handgun hunting for very large game, there’s really no true need for magnums.  For woods bumming, just about anything is sufficient.  If you live where bears are, any handgun 9mm on up will get it done provided you do your job.  Big grizzlies have been stopped with compact 9mm’s and .40’s.  Black bears aren’t hard to deal with, and its pretty rare you can just chase them off. 

If you’re carrying for self-defense against two legged critter, well just carry a self-defense pistol. 

When I’m in the woods, I most often switch to one of my revolvers, just because I like to carry my revolvers in the woods.  I don’t consider revolvers for urban self-defense anymore, so in the wood is one of the few times I get to carry my wheelguns. 

These days, I carry either my SAA in .45 Colt, or my Python loaded with .38 Specials. 
Title: Re: Wanting a 45 colt woods gun
Post by: Baltimore Ed on December 02, 2021, 06:20:17 PM
I usually carry one of my .22 Woodsmans if I’m in the woods on my 33 acre property. But I probably have my edc too. Already had several moccasins in my face while working out there cleaning up the previous owners trash and clearing dead trees. We’ve found 12 tires, a hot water heater, two tvs, box fan plus there are possibly the remains of two vehicles, ranges and who knows what else. I need a Kodiak 4x4.
Title: Re: Wanting a 45 colt woods gun
Post by: Professor Marvel on December 03, 2021, 12:27:49 AM
I usually carry one of my .22 Woodsmans if I’m in the woods on my 33 acre property. But I probably have my edc too. Already had several moccasins in my face while working out there cleaning up the previous owners trash and clearing dead trees. We’ve found 12 tires, a hot water heater, two tvs, box fan plus there are possibly the remains of two vehicles, ranges and who knows what else. I need a Kodiak 4x4.

You need a doodle bug with a crane....
And a better fence  :D :D :D

Yhs
Prof mumbles
Title: Re: Wanting a 45 colt woods gun
Post by: 45 Dragoon on December 03, 2021, 12:43:24 AM
Gotta admit, who needs a hot water heater?!!!   :D

Mike
Title: Re: Wanting a 45 colt woods gun
Post by: Baltimore Ed on December 03, 2021, 02:38:13 PM
Built one. Pull it behind my jeep or ztr mower. The axle is from the rear end of a Fury. Fourth time that the chassis has been rebuilt. My uncle made it into a small trailer, I made it into a portable plate rail and then another trailer and now this. It wasn’t pulling good with too much flex in the tongue and crane so they got reenforced. Does fine now.