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Title: Pedersoli Hawken Rifle
Post by: Niederlander on November 02, 2017, 08:25:04 pm
Gentlemen,  Anyone here have one of the Pedersoli Hawkens?  How do they shoot?  They look really nice in the pictures, and I may have a chance to get one.


Title: Re: Pedersoli Hawken Rifle
Post by: Buffalo Creek Law Dog on November 02, 2017, 09:55:43 pm
Can't speak about the Hawken but, I have the Pedersoli Pennsylvania 45 cal, Kentucky 50 cal  and the Scout 50 cal cap locks and they are excellent firearms.  You won't regret getting a Pedersoli.


Title: Re: Pedersoli Hawken Rifle
Post by: Niederlander on November 03, 2017, 05:51:18 am
Yes, I used to have a Pedersoli 1874 Sharps.  Very nice rifle.  Glad to hear the muzzleloaders are nice, too.


Title: Re: Pedersoli Hawken Rifle
Post by: Jack Wagon on November 03, 2017, 04:50:02 pm
I have the .54 Pedersoli maple stocked Rocky Mt. rifle. Beautiful tiger striped stock, excellent fit and finish and a great shooter. It is the gun I compete with at my muzzle loading club.   Jw


Title: Re: Pedersoli Hawken Rifle
Post by: LonesomePigeon on November 05, 2017, 12:02:37 am
I too have a Pedersoli Rocky Mountain Hawken .54 caliber with maple stock. I have only shot it a few times but it shoots great. First time out with it I hit the 100 yard gong offhand with the very first shot. Next 3 shots were bench rest at 25 yards, all 3 touching in the 10 ring.

I will say it's a heavy rifle at about 10 pounds and for me it's a bit barrel heavy but I guess one can learn to deal with it. Another thing that I am not sure if I like or not is that there is a flat spring on the bottom of the barrel. I think it is designed to hold the barrel more firmly in the stock, with an effect similar to glass bedding. I think this feature probably does help with accuracy but it also makes the wedge keys hard to drive out.

All in all I think it is an excellent rifle. Be aware that there are two main versions of this rifle. The Rocky Mountain has a 1:65 slow twist for roundball and the Missouri River has a fast twist(not sure exactly what it is) for conical bullets.


Title: Re: Pedersoli Hawken Rifle
Post by: pony express on November 05, 2017, 08:08:53 pm
The Lyman Great Plains rifle had 2 different twists, too. I wonder if Pedersoli was providing them to Lyman?


Title: Re: Pedersoli Hawken Rifle
Post by: Sir Charles deMouton-Black on November 06, 2017, 10:56:33 am
I have two Pedersoli muzzleloaders. 1.  .45 Tryon back action lock. A formidable offhand target rifle. and 2. 54 cal Mortimer flintlock with a spare 12ga. shot barrel. The lock is VERY reliable and fast. I heartily recommend Pedersoli rifles.


Title: Re: Pedersoli Hawken Rifle
Post by: Tsalagidave on November 10, 2017, 05:41:14 pm
The Pedersoli barrels are good and the overall package offers a good shooter at a good price.  They seem to be used quite commonly in a lot of competitive BP shooting clubs.  If you are looking for hardcore authentic stuff, it's easy to tell a Pedersoli apart from an original even if they are in the same condition.  That said, I think they are worth their salt for what they give out.

-Dave


Title: Re: Pedersoli Hawken Rifle
Post by: Reverend P. Babcock Chase on November 11, 2017, 08:52:05 am
Howdy ML Fans,

Re: Lyman Great Plains Rifle

I believe that a company named Investarms makes them for Lyman. They are not Pedersoli. Pedersoli makes Lyman's superb "Model of 1878 (Sharps)". I have worked as a consultant with Lyman for years and that is my recollection.

Reverend Chase


Title: Re: Pedersoli Hawken Rifle
Post by: Mike on November 11, 2017, 04:43:51 pm
All we see over here is the Plain Jane Kentucky rifles, from the web site there are some real nice looking Hawkins style gun available.
The Pedersoli guns I have used and seen all shoot well with the right load/patch/ball combo.

 


Title: Re: Pedersoli Hawken Rifle
Post by: Tsalagidave on November 11, 2017, 05:28:55 pm
That's good to know Reverend Chase, I was not aware of that. Aside from a repro m1855 rifle musket, I don't have any pure  Italian guns in my collection anymore.  I do like how they shoot however,  but am admittedly not as in the know on the Italian BP arms as I should be.

-Dave


Title: Re: Pedersoli Hawken Rifle
Post by: Niederlander on November 12, 2017, 09:09:46 am
I read a review of the Pedersoli Hawken the other day by a guy who has owned one original Hawken and handled at least fifteen others.  He said the fit and finish of the Pedersoli was, in his opinion, better than the originals.  I know they sure look nice.  I'm going to be looking for one if I can raise the money.


Title: Re: Pedersoli Hawken Rifle
Post by: Niederlander on November 21, 2017, 06:06:48 pm
Well, I've got one on the way.  I'll try to post some pictures when it gets here.


Title: Re: Pedersoli Hawken Rifle
Post by: LonesomePigeon on November 22, 2017, 01:52:26 am
That's awesome, congrats.


Title: Re: Pedersoli Hawken Rifle
Post by: Niederlander on November 22, 2017, 07:03:29 pm
The Pedersoli barrels are good and the overall package offers a good shooter at a good price.  They seem to be used quite commonly in a lot of competitive BP shooting clubs.  If you are looking for hardcore authentic stuff, it's easy to tell a Pedersoli apart from an original even if they are in the same condition.  That said, I think they are worth their salt for what they give out.

-Dave
According to the one article I read, the guy says the styling is very close to original Hawkens he's been around, with the exception of the rear sight.  He said he REALLY liked the rear sight, though.