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Title: New western : Hostiles
Post by: Shawnee McGrutt on August 22, 2017, 04:57:41 pm
Saw today that Christian Bale, has a new western coming out.  Believe it is about the Indian Wars?
Anybody seen any previews or have any knowledge?


Title: Re: New western : Hostiles
Post by: Coal Creek Griff on August 22, 2017, 06:08:17 pm
That's news to me, but if they keep this cast, there are some familiar actors that I like:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt5478478/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1 (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt5478478/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1)

Thanks for pointing that out!  The world NEEDS more westerns.

CC Griff

(At our house, when I ask, "Do you know how long it's been since I've seen a western?", the correct answer is, "TOO LONG!")


Title: Re: New western : Hostiles
Post by: Ben Beam on August 22, 2017, 06:11:26 pm
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Directed by Scott Cooper, the Western is set in 1892 and stars Bale as Captain Joseph J. Blocker who, after stern resistance, reluctantly agrees to escort a dying Cheyenne war chief and his family back home to tribal lands. Making the harrowing and perilous journey from New Mexico to the grasslands of Montana, the former rivals encounter a young widow whose family was murdered on the plains. Together, they must join forces to overcome the punishing landscape, hostile Comanche and vicious outliers encountered along the way.

Wes Studi also stars as the escorted Chief Yellow Hawk, and Rosamund Pike plays the young widow they meet. Jesse Plemons, Ben Foster and Timothee Chalamet are also featured in the cast.

Cooper, who also directed Bale in the 2013 Western Out of the Furnace, produced the indie along with Ken Kao and John Lesher. He also rewrote the script first penned by the late Donald Stewart, who won an Oscar for co-writing the 1982 Jack Lemmon drama Missing.

The title will have its international premiere at the Toronto Film Festival.


Title: Re: New western : Hostiles
Post by: G Bulldog Grainisland III on August 23, 2017, 05:21:22 am
This is good news indeed. Whilst not a fan or Mr Bale the plot sounds good to me ;)

-Bulldog


Title: Re: New western : Hostiles
Post by: Johnny McCrae on October 31, 2017, 07:55:45 am
I've been anxiously waiting the release of this movie. It looks like it will be December 22, 2017 in selected theaters.


Title: Re: New western : Hostiles
Post by: nagantino on November 03, 2017, 05:55:32 am
It sounds good. The Quest/ Journey always fits the western theme, like True Grit.  However, let's wait and see. Westerns are a very personal thing, like many friends told me that the remake of The Magnificent Seven was great while thought it Tosh. I like Christian Bale and I like the outline of the story. Please be good.


Title: Re: New western : Hostiles
Post by: Jeremiah Jones on November 03, 2017, 09:08:06 am
Plot sounds good.  I was afraid it would be another evil white-Cavalry unit kills peaceful, nature loving, Indians type movie.


Title: Re: New western : Hostiles
Post by: Jake C on November 03, 2017, 01:03:08 pm
Plot sounds good.  I was afraid it would be another evil white-Cavalry unit kills peaceful, nature loving, Indians type movie.

Just my belief, but I think we're getting to a more balanced view of the Indian Wars (a lot more gray rather than black & white). 'Hell on Wheels' and 'Deadwood' both showed Native Americans as frequently hostile and cruel, which is probably realistic. They also showed that the American response tended to match them in terms of cruelty. The last history I've read concerning the Apaches also didn't shy away from mutual brutality.


Title: Re: New western : Hostiles
Post by: nagantino on November 04, 2017, 07:50:16 am
Your right in that a more nuanced view of the Indian wars has developed in American cinema. It's a tragic history, that's for sure, but a movie that portrays the Indian or the white man as blameless is of no help. For example, if a story about the Comanche or the Apache did not include a portrayal of cruelty on the part of the tribes then it would be as false as a portrayal of the cavalry as gallant horsemen. It's complex, and I would not blame a Director shying away from such a portrayal. Maybe we were not ready for the truth.

For a book that shows how misunderstanding and cruelty from both sides created a downward spiral of  murder, kidnap, rape and ultimately annihilation, then read Empire of the Summer Moon by SC Gwynne is a must read.


Title: Re: New western : Hostiles
Post by: Jake C on November 04, 2017, 08:41:59 am
I agree wholeheartedly. And 'Empire of the Summer Moon' is next on my reading list actually. Have to finish 'The Devil in the White City' & 'Who Goes There' first.


Title: Re: New western : Hostiles
Post by: JimBob on November 13, 2017, 06:34:34 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1M5cj4UmscE


Title: Re: New western : Hostiles
Post by: Coal Creek Griff on November 13, 2017, 07:20:06 pm
This has the potential to be a good one.  I certainly hope so; it has been a while.

CC Griff


Title: Re: New western : Hostiles
Post by: MattSnow on November 14, 2017, 12:45:50 am
I like Bale and really really like Pike as an actress  ::), looking forward to see the movie in a cinema.